Educause Security Discussion: by date
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starting Oct 01 10 and
ending Dec 29 10
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Friday, 01 October
Re: RIAA complaints error? David L. Rotman
Re: Encrypted P2P was: RIAA complaints error? Kevin Wilcox
Re: RIAA complaints error? Kellogg, Brian D.
Re: RIAA complaints error? Dexter Caldwell
unsubscribe Brown, Christopher
Computer name to person mapping (Identity Finder) Woodruff, Dan
Re: Computer name to person mapping (Identity Finder) Joel Rosenblatt
Social media policies poll Plesco, Todd
Sunday, 03 October
Re: Best practice: IT polices and standards Dr. Wole Akpose
Re: Active Domain Architecture in an Academic Environment Dr. Wole Akpose
Tuesday, 05 October
STOP | THINK | CONNECT: The first Global Online Safety Campaign Launches As Part of National Cyber Security Awareness Month Rodney Petersen
Wednesday, 06 October
Education sector most affected by malware DiGrazia, Mick A
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Valdis Kletnieks
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Matthew Gracie
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Joel Rosenblatt
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Christopher Jones
Bandwith management, traffic shaping Dexter Caldwell
Re: Bandwith management, traffic shaping Kenneth G. Arnold
Our Community Meeting at EDUCAUSE 2010 Valerie Vogel
Re: Bandwith management, traffic shaping Ammar Abdulahad
Re: Bandwith management, traffic shaping Kenneth G. Arnold
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Ness, Carl J
Re: Bandwith management, traffic shaping Doty, Timothy T.
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Joel Rosenblatt
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Roger Safian
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Harvard Townsend
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Tom Talley
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Tom Talley
Free Webcast: "Cyber Security Is Our Shared Responsibility" - October 14, 2-3:30 pm EDT Valerie Vogel
Thursday, 07 October
Re: Bandwith management, traffic shaping Leo Song
Re: Education sector most affected by malware DiGrazia, Mick A
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Doty, Timothy T.
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Gina Mieszczak
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Flynn, Gary - flynngn
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Roger Safian
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Bradley, Stephen W. Mr.
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Leo Song
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Doty, Timothy T.
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Valdis Kletnieks
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Jason C. Belford
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Roger Safian
Re: Education sector most affected by malware Brad Judy
Gentle Reminder: Posting to the list Valerie Vogel
Self Service password reset Kellogg, Brian D.
Re: Self Service password reset Patrick Goggins
Re: Self Service password reset SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach Nicole Kegler
Re: Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach David Escalante
Re: Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach Doty, Timothy T.
Re: Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach Allen Barrett
Re: Self Service password reset Christopher Jones
Re: Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach Gene Spafford
Re: Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach John Ladwig
Re: Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach Plesco, Todd
Friday, 08 October
Auto-update versus "going green" Jeff Kell
Re: National Cyber Security Awareness Month 2010 is HERE! Kevin Skelly
Re: Auto-update versus "going green" Valdis Kletnieks
Re: Auto-update versus "going green" SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Re: Auto-update versus "going green" Parker, Ron
Re: Auto-update versus "going green" Jeff Kell
Re: Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach Martin Manjak
Re: Auto-update versus "going green" SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Monday, 11 October
Re: National Cyber Security Awareness Month 2010 is HERE! Eoin Dunne
Security Sessions at EDUCAUSE 2010: Which Sessions Will You Be Attending? Jodi Ito
Qualys Logan, Kim (loganks)
Re: Qualys Walter Petruska
Exchange Remote Hosting STEVE MAGRIBY
Re: Exchange Remote Hosting Valdis Kletnieks
Please print and post - Dr. Wole Akpose
Re: Please print and post - Steven Alexander
Re: Please print and post - Bob Bayn
Re: Please print and post - John Ladwig
Tuesday, 12 October
Re: Please print and post - Roger Safian
Re: Please print and post - CLARKE, JOHN
Re: Please print and post - Mclaughlin, Kevin (mclaugkl)
Re: Please print and post - changing approach Walter Petruska
Re: Please print and post - David Gillett
Re: [Spam:5.9 SpamScore] Re: [SECURITY] Please print and post - Eme Ejike
Re: [Spam:5.9 SpamScore] Re: [SECURITY] Please print and post - Valdis Kletnieks
Reminder: Higher Ed InfoSec Council Community Meeting at EDUCAUSE 2010 Rodney Petersen
Re: [Spam:5.9 SpamScore] Re: [SECURITY] Please print and post - Eme Ejike
Re: Please print and post - Eme Ejike
I think I'll see you at dinner 2nite? David Escalante
Re: I think I'll see you at dinner 2nite? David Gillett
Re: I think I'll see you at dinner 2nite? Mclaughlin, Kevin (mclaugkl)
Wednesday, 13 October
Georgetown University sponsors event on China and Strategic Cyber Issues Nicole Kegler
Reminder--Free Webcast Tomorrow, Oct. 14: "Cyber Security Is Our Shared Responsibility" (2-3:30 pm EDT) Valerie Vogel
Thursday, 14 October
Re: Auto-update versus "going green" Koerber, Jeff
Re: Auto-update versus "going green" Alan Amesbury
Re: Auto-update versus "going green" Todd Clementz
Friday, 15 October
NAC with Guest wireless King, Ronald A.
Re: NAC with Guest wireless Childs, Aaron
Re: NAC with Guest wireless Reyes, Esteban
Saturday, 16 October
Re: Please print and post - Russell Fulton
Re: NAC with Guest wireless Cal Frye
Sunday, 17 October
Survey sites used for Phishing attacks Ram Smith
Monday, 18 October
Re: Please print and post - Dr. Wole Akpose
Re: NAC with Guest wireless Greg Williams
Re: Survey sites used for Phishing attacks Greg Russo
Educause Sec Conf 2011 Submit a Presentation Proposal Semmens, Theresa
Tuesday, 19 October
Re: Survey sites used for Phishing attacks Chris Green
Degausser Greg Schaffer
Re: Degausser Vedda, Michael (Mike)
Re: Degausser Guy Pace
Re: Degausser Ken Connelly
Re: Degausser Greg Schaffer
Re: Degausser Mike Leach
Re: Degausser Parker, Ron
Re: Degausser Chris Green
Re: Degausser SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Re: Degausser Anthony Phillips
Re: Survey sites used for Phishing attacks Philip Webster
Wednesday, 20 October
Re: Degausser Ray McClure
Re: NAC with Guest wireless Anthony Maszeroski
Re: Survey sites used for Phishing attacks Anthony Maszeroski
Thursday, 21 October
Call for Papers: WorldCIS-2011, Technical Co-Sponsored by IEEE UK/RI Computer Chapter! Paul Kelly
LDAPS Kellogg, Brian D.
Re: LDAPS Childs, Aaron
Re: LDAPS Chris Green
Re: LDAPS Bryan Fleming
Re: LDAPS Kellogg, Brian D.
Fwd: Re: [SECURITY] LDAPS Eric C. Lukens
Re: LDAPS Bryan Fleming
Re: Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach Koerber, Jeff
Re: Degausser Greg Schaffer
Re: Spam: For More Details Guy Pace
Re: Degausser Ken Connelly
Friday, 22 October
Call for Workshops and Tutorials: WorldCIS-2011! Galyna Akmayeva
Re: Chapel Hill researcher demoted after security breach Dennis Bohn
self service password reset questions Kellogg, Brian D.
Re: Degausser Anthony Phillips
Re: Degausser/Nature of Listserv David Escalante
Re: self service password reset questions Todd Britton
Re: Degausser Greg Schaffer
Re: self service password reset questions SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Re: self service password reset questions Harry Pontiff
Re: self service password reset questions Todd Britton
Re: Degausser Ken Connelly
Re: Degausser/Nature of Listserv Greg Schaffer
Re: self service password reset questions Greg Williams
Re: Degausser/Nature of Listserv Doty, Timothy T.
Re: self service password reset questions SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Re: self service password reset questions Kellogg, Brian D.
Security Operations Manager Position Corn, Michael A
Monday, 25 October
Re: LDAPS Schoenefeld, Keith
Tuesday, 26 October
Web Application Security Scanning Tools (Open-Source) Bogart, Kelley J - (bogartk)
Re: Degausser Valerie Vogel
MSU Cyber Security Awareness Conference being streamed online Dr. Wole Akpose
Internal web portal timeout Kellogg, Brian D.
Security Awareness Presentations Available Howell, Paul
Wednesday, 27 October
EDUCAUSE Live! Friday 10/29: PESC 2.0--Unlocking the Power of Data for a New Modern Reality Valerie Vogel
Thursday, 28 October
Call for participation ICICS 2010. December 15-17, 2010 Juan Hernández Serrano
Re: Action Required: Download Your New Adobe Acrobat Reader Ullman, Catherine
policy question? Anand S Malwade
Re: policy question? SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Re: policy question? Brad Judy
Friday, 29 October
Re: policy question? Dr. Wole Akpose
Re: policy question? randy marchany
Re: policy question? Joel Rosenblatt
Re: policy question? SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Re: policy question? Bristol, Gary L.
Re: policy question? randy marchany
Re: policy question? Valdis Kletnieks
Automating Secure Wireless Connectivity Christopher Jones
Re: Automating Secure Wireless Connectivity Valdis Kletnieks
Re: Automating Secure Wireless Connectivity Christopher Jones
Re: Automating Secure Wireless Connectivity Everett, Alex D
Monday, 01 November
Firesheep/Cain& Able Hudson, Edward
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able Michael Horne
Re: Automating Secure Wireless Connectivity Chris Mielke
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able John Ladwig
Re: Automating Secure Wireless Connectivity Randall C Grimshaw
alienvault OSSIM Dawson,Scottie
Re: alienvault OSSIM Neil Gaede
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able Isac Balder
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able Valdis Kletnieks
Re: alienvault OSSIM Eric C. Lukens
Job Posting : Information Security Analyst/Developer at Boston University Fulton, Lora
Tuesday, 02 November
National Cyber Security Awareness Month Success Stories Ben Woelk
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able Foerst, Daniel P.
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able Webb, Justin
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able Greg Williams
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able Alex Keller
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able John Ladwig
Wednesday, 03 November
National Cyber Security Awareness Month Metrics? Kris Monroe
EDUCAUSE Live! Wednesday Nov. 10: Cloud Contracting Valerie Vogel
Re: National Cyber Security Awareness Month Metrics? Allison F Dolan
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able Matt Giannetto
Re: Firesheep/Cain& Able David Gillett
Information Security Analyst position at Boston College David Escalante
Thursday, 04 November
Code Review Umphrey, Margaret
Re: Code Review Joel Rosenblatt
Re: Code Review Doty, Timothy T.
Re: policy question? Rosenthal, Jane E.
Re: policy question? Soldi, Miguel
device security and email using activesync Smith, Bob
Friday, 05 November
Re: device security and email using activesync Patria, Patricia
Cisco IOS Firewall CPU resource needs Flynn, Gary - flynngn
Re: Cisco IOS Firewall CPU resource needs Josh Richard
Re: Cisco IOS Firewall CPU resource needs Flynn, Gary - flynngn
Malware via RSS? Eric Case
Re: Malware via RSS? Valdis Kletnieks
Monday, 08 November
Job Posting at Baylor University Allen, Jon D
Universities riskiest place for SSN Allison F Dolan
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Martin Manjak
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Tracy Mitrano
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Brad Judy
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Eric Case
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Valdis Kletnieks
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Mike Lococo
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Dan Peterson
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Steven Alexander
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Morrow Long
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN David Escalante
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Willis Marti
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Mclaughlin, Kevin (mclaugkl)
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Moore, Frank
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Hoag, Martin
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Dan Peterson
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Judith House
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Dan Peterson
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN John Ladwig
Tuesday, 09 November
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Allison F Dolan
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Kevin Shalla
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN John Ladwig
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Kimberly Heimbrock
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Jeffrey Schiller
Re: Universities riskiest place for SSN Dexter Caldwell
LMS Systems Hudson, Edward
Export Controls Mclaughlin, Kevin (mclaugkl)
Wednesday, 10 November
Re: Export Controls Taylor, James R
Re: Export Controls Wisdom, Michelle M.
Re: Export Controls Chris Kidd
Re: Export Controls Mobilia, Chuck
Thursday, 11 November
EDUCAUSE Live! Nov. 18: Biometrics and privacy Valerie Vogel
University of Maryland Cyber Security Project Olivia Shin
Friday, 12 November
Re: University of Maryland Cyber Security Project Brad Judy
Monday, 15 November
Laptop encryption experiences Alan Bowen
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Everett, Alex D
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Sherry Callahan
Re: Laptop encryption experiences A. Harry Williams
Re: Laptop encryption experiences James Farr '05
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Shahra Meshkaty
Re: Laptop encryption experiences randy marchany
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Valdis Kletnieks
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Tonkin, Derek K.
Re: Laptop encryption experiences SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Rich Graves
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Valdis Kletnieks
Application Risk Assessment/Questionnaire?? Connie Sadler
Re: Application Risk Assessment/Questionnaire?? Ozzie Paez
Tuesday, 16 November
anyone using p0f on a large scale? Russell Fulton
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Allison F Dolan
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Mclaughlin, Kevin (mclaugkl)
Re: Application Risk Assessment/Questionnaire?? Joshua Beeman
Reminder: List Etiquette Valerie Vogel
Re: Application Risk Assessment/Questionnaire?? Valerie Vogel
Re: Laptop encryption- Follow-up Patria, Patricia
Re: Laptop encryption- Follow-up Basgen, Brian
Re: Laptop encryption- Follow-up James Farr '05
Re: Laptop encryption- Follow-up David Clift
Re: Laptop encryption experiences randy marchany
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Joel Rosenblatt
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Allison F Dolan
Call for Papers: WorldCIS-2011, Technical Co-Sponsored by IEEE UK/RI Computer Chapter! Paul Kelly
Re: Call for Papers: WorldCIS-2011, Technical Co-Sponsored by IEEE UK/RI Computer Chapter! Michael Cole
Re: Call for Papers: WorldCIS-2011, Technical Co-Sponsored by IEEE UK/RI Computer Chapter! Michael Cole
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Rich Graves
Re: Laptop encryption- Follow-up Dave Koontz
Re: Laptop encryption- Follow-up SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Wednesday, 17 November
Online Information Security Programs for Staff, Faculty and Students Angela L Embree
Re: Online Information Security Programs for Staff, Faculty and Students Greg Schaffer
Re: Online Information Security Programs for Staff, Faculty and Students Banks, Teresa E - (tbanks)
Re: Laptop encryption- Follow-up randy marchany
Re: Online Information Security Programs for Staff, Faculty and Students Lorenz, Eva
Institutional Facebook Security Behunin Jessica
Re: Laptop encryption experiences Sherry Callahan
Symantec SEP, SEM and IP address Brad Judy
Re: Online Information Security Programs for Staff, Faculty and Students Wiam Younes
Re: Symantec SEP, SEM and IP address Eric C. Lukens
Thursday, 18 November
Re: Symantec SEP, SEM and IP address Brad Judy
Database Encryption for HIPAA Patria, Patricia
Next IAM Online - Dec. 9 - Federated Access to Science Services Valerie Vogel
Friday, 19 November
Re: Educause Sec Conf 2011 Submit a Presentation Proposal Brad Judy
Friday, 26 November
data security policies for research data Youngquist, Jason R.
Monday, 29 November
EDUCAUSE jobs in DC Greg Jackson
Re: EDUCAUSE jobs in DC McCrary, Barbara
Tuesday, 30 November
WorldCIS-2011: Final Call for Papers! Paul Kelly
Special needs students and passwords Stewart James
Wednesday, 01 December
Re: Special needs students and passwords Valdis Kletnieks
Re: Special needs students and passwords John Ladwig
Re: Special needs students and passwords Flynn, Gary - flynngn
Re: Special needs students and passwords Paul Kendall
Re: Special needs students and passwords Will Froning
Re: Special needs students and passwords Nick Lewis
Thursday, 02 December
Re: Special needs students and passwords Brandon Payne
Re: Special needs students and passwords Russell Fulton
Friday, 03 December
MPAA letter to college & university presidents Steve Worona
Monday, 06 December
Open Source workstation inventory tools: GLPI and OCS-NG Martin Manjak
Tuesday, 07 December
FireEye appliance Peter Charbonneau
IP Camera Replacement Budget Greene, Chip
Re: IP Camera Replacement Budget Barron Hulver
Wednesday, 08 December
DNS hosting that supports DNSSEC Kincaid, Chris
Re: DNS hosting that supports DNSSEC John Kristoff
Thursday, 09 December
SANS FOR558: anyone hosting? Sam Hooker
Fwd: VA Tech Hosting SANS Sec 542 Web App Pen Testing/Hacking Class, 3/7-12/2011 randy marchany
Desire2Learn issues? Chet Langin
how to handle requests for HTML signatures Charlie Derr
Re: how to handle requests for HTML signatures Tim Faircloth
Re: how to handle requests for HTML signatures Valdis Kletnieks
Re: how to handle requests for HTML signatures Dan Oachs
Re: how to handle requests for HTML signatures Julian Y. Koh
Friday, 10 December
Adaptive/Risk based authentication solutions Flynn, Gary - flynngn
Re: how to handle requests for HTML signatures Charlie Derr
Re: how to handle requests for HTML signatures Julian Y. Koh
TrueCrypt and Windows Hibernate feature Smith, Bob
Re: TrueCrypt and Windows Hibernate feature Eric Case
Re: TrueCrypt and Windows Hibernate feature Alexander Kurt Keller
Saturday, 11 December
Re: TrueCrypt and Windows Hibernate feature Bradley, Stephen W. Mr.
Re: how to handle requests for HTML signatures Rajewski, Jonathan
Tuesday, 14 December
USB Keyloggers Will Froning
Wednesday, 15 December
Re: USB Keyloggers Doty, Timothy T.
Re: USB Keyloggers Jon Hanny
Re: USB Keyloggers Brad Judy
Re: USB Keyloggers Doty, Timothy T.
Re: USB Keyloggers Doty, Timothy T.
Re: USB Keyloggers Will Froning
Enabling a job applicant to resume a submission later Clifford Collins
Re: Enabling a job applicant to resume a submission later Julian Y. Koh
Re: SANS FOR558: anyone hosting? Sam Hooker
Re: how to handle requests for HTML signatures Julian Y. Koh
Re: Enabling a job applicant to resume a submission later Flynn, Gary - flynngn
Re: USB Keyloggers Brad Judy
Re: USB Keyloggers Doty, Timothy T.
Re: Enabling a job applicant to resume a submission later John Ladwig
Re: Enabling a job applicant to resume a submission later Allison F Dolan
Re: Enabling a job applicant to resume a submission later Jeffrey Schiller
Re: Enabling a job applicant to resume a submission later John Ladwig
Thursday, 16 December
Idle and Max. Session Length in Juniper SA Clark, Joseph K
Re: Idle and Max. Session Length in Juniper SA Julian Y. Koh
Re: Idle and Max. Session Length in Juniper SA Tim Nance
Re: Enabling a job applicant to resume a submission later Clifford Collins
Friday, 17 December
New Hotmail Feature - Active Views Flynn, Gary - flynngn
Email Archiving WILLIAM I ARNOLD
New Targeted Phish Attack Dave Koontz
Filelocker 2 Now Available on SourceForge Brett Davis
Re: SANS FOR558: anyone hosting? Daryl Gilbertson
Monday, 20 December
Re: Enabling a job applicant to resume a submission later Russell Fulton
Tuesday, 21 December
Cloud Email Services and Security Profiles for Mobile Devices Martin Manjak
Remote Desktop Policies Webb, Justin
Re: Remote Desktop Policies Basgen, Brian
Re: Remote Desktop Policies Patrick Goggins
Wednesday, 22 December
IAM Online January 12 - Persistent Identifiers in Education Valerie Vogel
OT: E-discovery Windows Tools Kevin Kelly
Re: OT: E-discovery Windows Tools Stephen C Gay
Re: OT: E-discovery Windows Tools Chris Green
Re: OT: E-discovery Windows Tools Wiggins, Paul K.
Re: Remote Desktop Policies King, Ronald A.
DNSSEC Implementations Martin Manjak
Re: Remote Desktop Policies Nick Kartsioukas
Re: Remote Acceses Policies - VPN vs Desktop Access Jeff Kell
Re: DNSSEC Implementations Allen Barrett
Re: DNSSEC Implementations Chris Green
Re: FireEye appliance Jay Krous
Re: DNSSEC Implementations Jack Suess
Re: DNSSEC Implementations John Kristoff
Thursday, 23 December
Re: DNSSEC Implementations Martin Manjak
Re: DNSSEC Implementations Michael Sinatra
Re: DNSSEC Implementations Martin Manjak
Re: DNSSEC Implementations Michael Sinatra
Monday, 27 December
FW: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Jacobson, Dick
Re: FW: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Ken Connelly
Re: FW: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Don M. Blumenthal
Re: FW: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Irish, Adrian L
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Jacobson, Dick
Re: FW: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Jacobson, Dick
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Irish, Adrian L
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Michael Sinatra
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Bob Bayn
Tuesday, 28 December
Re: FW: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Roger Safian
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Lorenz, Eva
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Jacobson, Dick
Wednesday, 29 December
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Jacobson, Dick
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Lorenz, Eva
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 A. Harry Williams
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Jacobson, Dick
Re: DMCA Notification Notice ID: 14-25709908 Lorenz, Eva