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RE: WIRELESS THEFT
From: "Merrell, Sam" <SMerrell () avbpgh com>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:21:47 -0400
Since the person living next door to the apartment in question has never agreed to the 'EULA', they cannot be in violation of it. The point remains, however, that you are not just "receiving the signal", you are using the processes of the hardware owned by the apartment next door, and you are not specifically authorized to do so. But, seeing that they are providing this free of charge, I would think that you could equate it to them having lights on to illuminate the sidewalk in front of their building. It's their electricity, and their lamps, but more than the residents in that building will benefit from it. -----Original Message----- From: Ashcraft, Brian S (Contractor) [mailto:Brian.Ashcraft () dscc dla mil] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:27 PM To: 'Johannes Ullrich'; Amit P. Gandre; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: WIRELESS THEFT Let me just throw my .02 in here. I am not a lawyer, so I may be wrong. I have to believe that some where along the line, the cable companies End User License Agreement is being broken. They may have worked a deal with the local cable company to provide cable to the residents as part of their rental agreement. However, I have to believe that this deal is exclusive to them. Your interception and use of the signal (as a non-resident) may infringe on this contract between the two companies. My guess is, technically, you are breaching the EULA of the cable company, which may (or may not) open you up to legal troubles. Then again, I could be wrong :) Luck, -b- -----Original Message----- From: Johannes Ullrich [mailto:jullrich () euclidian com] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:49 PM To: Amit P. Gandre; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Re: WIRELESS THEFT
Hi Can someone tell me if there are any laws regarding wireless theft?
I don't think Congress has caught up with this yet. But from what I hear (usual disclaimer: INAL), you are free to pick up the signal as long as you are not breaking any WEP or other login restriction. Its kind of like CB radio. Everyone can legally listening to you chatting on CB radio. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- jullrich () euclidian com Collaborative Intrusion Detection join http://www.dshield.org --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.400 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 10/9/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.400 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 10/9/2002
Current thread:
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT, (continued)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Trevor Cushen (Oct 17)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Orion Robillard (Oct 17)
- Re: WIRELESS THEFT James Dennis (Oct 18)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Ashcraft, Brian S (Contractor) (Oct 17)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Jason Kohles (Oct 18)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Jay DeSotel (Oct 18)
- Re: WIRELESS THEFT Ishmann (Oct 17)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT khayes (Oct 17)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Högman, Lars (Oct 18)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Orion Robillard (Oct 18)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Merrell, Sam (Oct 18)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Brett Hiscock (Oct 18)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Alaric Darconville (Oct 18)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Mike Dresser (Oct 18)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Alaric Darconville (Oct 21)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Jeff Knox (Oct 21)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Alaric Darconville (Oct 22)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Raoul Armfield (Oct 22)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Alaric Darconville (Oct 23)
- RE: WIRELESS THEFT Mike Dresser (Oct 18)
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