That degrees do you have?

[irongeek at irongeek.com (Adrian Crenshaw)]

I've met some really dumb people with doctorates, but it seems to be the
union card you have to have to teach in a public institution.

Adrian

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:32 AM, John Navarro <jnavtx at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's good to hear! I was just reading this thread and wondering about
> those of us without degrees.
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Brett Hoff <bhoff at itworldclass.com> wrote:
>
> >  I have no degree! I am also a state accredited instructor and have
> > designed my own security pen testing syllabus that has been approved by the
> > state for 2 years.
> >
> > personally I believe in the hands on experience vs. the Academia.
> >
> > what I do have is the sec+, Ethical hacking, Linux+, GCFA and the RHCT
> > I teach the sec and Linux classes and even recognized by redhat as able to
> > teach all the classes in the open source academy.
> >
> > So Teaching is possible with out the degrees you just have to find the
> > right place that will work with you.
> >
> > for example the college here UWF you have to be a PhD or mD to teach and
> > they are allowing me to teach not the entire classes but modules from the
> > classes that
> > I have expertise in.
> >
> > Hope that helps
> >
> >
> > Brett Hoff
> >
> > RHCT, Linux +, Security+
> >
> > Senior Security and Linux instructor
> >
> > Senior IT Security Engineer
> >
> > *GCFA* "Certified Forensics Analyst"
> >
> > Antler Computer Consulting
> >
> >  Antler, Inc.
> >
> > We do IT World Class!
> >
> >
> >
> > 850-857-7707
> >
> > itworldclass.com
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com [mailto:
> > pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com] *On Behalf Of *Butturini, Russell
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2009 7:22 AM
> > *To:* PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
> > *Subject:* Re: [Pauldotcom] That degrees do you have?
> >
> >  I have a B.S. in Management Information Systems, and also teach infosec
> > classes.  If you want to teach, one thing you have to watch out for now
> > though is, depending on where you teach and who their accrediting body is,
> > there is a movement towards requiring that you have a degree that meets two
> > conditions:
> >
> > 1.  The degree must be one level higher than the level of the class you
> > are teaching (i.e. if you are teaching an associate level class you need a
> > bachelor?s degree, if you are teaching a bachelor?s level class you need a
> > master?s degree, etc.)
> >
> > 2.  The degree must be directly related to the field you are teaching
> > (i.e. if you are teaching Infosec classes, your degree must be in infosec
> > instead of MIS etc.)
> >
> >
> >
> > They tend to let me slide on #2 because I have enough IT certifications
> > for them to justify it to the accreditation committee.  But again, it varies
> > between accrediting bodies.
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com [mailto:
> > pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com] *On Behalf Of *Adrian Crenshaw
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:54 PM
> > *To:* PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
> > *Subject:* [Pauldotcom] That degrees do you have?
> >
> >
> >
> > I find myself very disappointed with higher education, price for
> > performance, ethics, etc. I have a BS in CS (I like saying it that way) and
> > am working on an MBA, but their idea of ethics is not my idea of ethics.
> >
> > I'm curious, what degrees do some of you have? I'm interested in finding a
> > job teaching infosec, so if you teach I'd really like to hear what
> > credentials you have.
> >
> > Adrian
> >
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