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Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots
From: Jeremy Bennett <jeremy_f_bennett () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:06:32 -0700 (PDT)
--- Lance Spitzner <lance () honeynet org> wrote:
First, many people are including the term 'decoy' in the definition. While honeypots can 'decoy', I don't think that should be in the definition. The term decoy implies "to lure or entrap". Often honeypots don't lure. You just put them out there and the bad guys find them on their own intiative, nothing special is done to insare the attacker. The Honeynet Project has being doing this for years now.
Not sure I agree, Lance. To say you don't do anything "special" to lure attackers to the honeynet is a bit dubious. You attempt to make your honeypots look as much like real systems as possible. I would call that using deception or artifice to insnare your prey. If I'm a duck hunter I make my decoy look as much like a duck as possible. I don't try to make it look better than a duck. By making your honeypots look more like real systems you are making your decoys look like the things your prey seeks. I understand the desire to move away from the "negative' words like decoy and deception but the fact is that is exactly what we're doing and there's nothing wrong with it. I believe decoy is absolutely the correct term for the honeynet. There is a question whether a low-interaction honeypot like honeyd deployed as an early warning system qualifies as a decoy. In this case it is more akin to a trip wire or doorway sensor than it is to a decoy. However, even in this scenario, we are still attempting to make a "machine" look as much like a real host as possible. Thus, still a decoy or a lure. When honeyd logs activity it is just like the fisherman's lure bobbing in the water. As they say "A rose by any other name..." -J
Current thread:
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots, (continued)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Christian Kreibich (May 20)
- RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots John McCracken (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Christian Kreibich (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Perraju (May 21)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Richard La Bella (Florida Honeynet) (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Jeremy Bennett (May 20)
- RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Rick Hayes (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Harish Pillay (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Bernie, CTA (May 20)
- RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots John McCracken (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Jeremy Bennett (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Richard H. Cotterell (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots David Goldsmith (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Graeme Thompson (May 20)
- Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Per Gustav Ousdal (May 20)
- RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots Fabien Pouget (May 21)
- Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! Lance Spitzner (May 23)
- Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! Volker Tanger (May 23)
- Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! Tora (May 23)
- Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! Richard La Bella (Florida Honeynet) (May 23)
- Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! Steve Barnet (May 23)
- Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! Volker Tanger (May 23)
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