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Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots


From: "Perraju" <perrajukv () ideasp com>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:43:31 +0530

I prefer Both.

Perraju
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christian Kreibich" <christian () whoop org>
To: "Honeypots List" <honeypots () securityfocus com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots


On Tue, 2003-05-20 at 04:23, Lance Spitzner wrote:

First, many people are including the term 'decoy' in the 
definition.  While honeypots can 'decoy', I don't think 
that should be in the definition.  The term decoy implies 
"to lure or entrap".  Often honeypots don't lure.  You just 
put them out there and the bad guys find them on their own 
intiative, nothing special is done to insare the attacker.  
The Honeynet Project has being doing this for years now.

Mhmm I think this is difficult to put concisely. Basically you want to
define something like a mousetrap without cheese -- the only thing I can
think of that does something like that in the real world is a minefield.

Second, many people are including in the definition how
honeypots are used to learn or research.  Once again, while
honeypots can do this, they can do so much more. They 
can be used for preventing attacks (such as LaBrea Tarpit)
or be used purely for detection similar to an IDS 
system (such as Honeyd).  We have to be very careful
in our defintion to ensure we do not imply why we would
want to use a honeypot.

I fully agree with this -- it's the old mechanism versus policy argument
I guess.

Based on all the feedback we have been getting, I've 
narrowed this down into two options.

Thoughts?


OPTION A
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  "A honeypot is an information system resource who's
   value lies in being probed, attacked, or compromised"

 
OPTION B
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  "A honeypot is an information system resource who's
   value lies in monitoring unauthorized or illicit use of 
   that resource"

Among those I still prefer the first one. Actually if you just drop
"decoy" from my attempt I still like it:

"A honeypot is an information system resource set up for the purpose of
monitoring and logging the activities of entities that probe, attack or
compromise it."

Cheers,
Christian.
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