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Re: regarding spam...
From: Thorkild Stray <thorkild () linpro no>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 05:16:27 +0200 (CEST)
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Crispin Cowan wrote:
Kalat, Andrew (ISS Atlanta) wrote: What WOULD hurt the spammers is a spam filter designed to be deployed as an EGRESS filter for large domains. I get an obnoxious amount of spam from the same domains time and time again. Some of them are free webmail servers (hotmail.com, yahoo.com, mail.com, etc.) while others are obscure Asian ISPs (263.net comes to mind). The clear pattern that emerges is:
Most of the spams I get from @hotmail.com etc. are fakes. They have just faked the adress and used an open relay somewhere else. The accounts they use for their faked from, doesn't even exist. Hotmail (for example) can't be blamed. We've had clients that have created free, or almost-free, webmail systems. 98% of all the spam they get accused of, never pass thru them, and the account they use doesn't exist. If it exists, it has of course been blocked ages ago. The remaining 2% get stopped quickly. Another regarded problem with this is of course the anti-spammers. They complain about the spam. That's fine, but since they're either using stupid scripts or can't read headers they end up complaining to a _long_ list of people who really are not to blame. I've seen abuse-mails with 50-70 entries CC'ed. None of them were to blame, and the offending relay wasn't notified. When you get 50-70 of them a day, it gets higly annoying to read your postmaster/hostmaster mail accounts. These people often dig up the most remarkable addresses to mail. -- Thorkild Stray, Linpro AS <thorkild () linpro no> _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () nfr com http://list.nfr.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- Re: regarding spam... Crispin Cowan (Mar 31)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: regarding spam... Ryan Russell (Mar 31)
- Re: regarding spam... John Adams (Mar 31)
- RE: regarding spam... Kalat, Andrew (ISS Atlanta) (Apr 01)
- Re: regarding spam... Crispin Cowan (Apr 01)
- RE: regarding spam... Bill Royds (Apr 02)
- Re: regarding spam... Thorkild Stray (Apr 02)
- Re: regarding spam... R. DuFresne (Apr 02)
- Re: regarding spam... R. DuFresne (Apr 02)
- Re: regarding spam... Adam Shostack (Apr 03)
- Re: regarding spam... Ryan Russell (Apr 03)
- Re: regarding spam... Adam Shostack (Apr 03)
- Re: regarding spam... Crispin Cowan (Apr 01)
- Re: regarding spam... Rick Murphy (Apr 02)
- Re: Re: regarding spam... Andrew Fremantle (Apr 03)
- Re: regarding spam... Mikael Olsson (Apr 03)