Re: Wake up call for friends and family using SET

[Zate Berg <zate75 () gmail com>]

User education is a wonderful thing if done correctly.  Context and speaking
to the technical level of your audience is key.  I say go for it, as long as
they are understanding what you are trying to show them.  I've done
practical demonstrations for several family members with SET to show them
how NoScript can play a good part in protecting them.

We all bemoan the state of how "dumb" users are so don't pass up an
opportunity educate, as long as it's done in the spirit of improving their
knowledge and safety :)

Zate


On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Daniel Holiday <dehaul () gmail com> wrote:

> Some folks have asked who I was telling to "don't be an asshole." It
> was directed at the OP, Brian Schultz.
>
> And some folks said I was harsh... fair point.
>
> But I guarantee you, if you break into your friend/family's stuff, you
> really aren't going to prove anything to them except that you are
> being an asshole. You break their privacy and trust - and they still
> won't get the message you are trying to send because they will be
> clouded with the emotions you caused by messing with their stuff.
>
> If you want to help them, tell them they should be careful. And if bad
> things happen to their stuff, help them out, but tell them "I told you
> so" in the nicest way possible.
>
> I think that sometimes nerds (myself included) don't understand how
> people will take things because we are a bit disconnected emotionally
> and tend to focus only on the more logical side of problems. We look
> at the (overwhelming, to nerds,) idea of "my friends/family FAILing at
> security" but then FAIL ourselves to see how to communicate this idea
> to them in a way that will make them understand (the best they can)
> AND keep us from looking like an asshole.
>
> You have to meet people where they are at. Your friends/family
> probably won't listen to you until they get a few knocks on the head,
> but let some *real* asshole do the head knocking...
>
> dehaul
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Daniel Holiday <dehaul () gmail com> wrote:
> > Dude, don't be an asshole.
> >
> > dehaul
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