Re: Free access to measurement network

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

BTW: There are no government-enforced monopolies anywhere in the US, aside from possibly Native American reservations. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Edwin Pers" <EPers () ansencorp com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:03:52 AM 
Subject: RE: Free access to measurement network 

Yes, the fact that both the city I work in and the town I live in have local govt-enforced monopolies reinforces the 
statement that I've (and all the other people near me) been voting with our collective wallets this entire time 

-----Original Message----- 
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:23 AM 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network 

It's a consumer thing. If consumers wanted more options, they would be supporting those options with their wallets. 
They don't. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Max Tulyev" <maxtul () netassist ua> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:43:54 AM 
Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network 

So for my point of view, better solution is to push some law that ease access to the buildings for ISPs. 

15.12.17 19:40, valdis.kletnieks () vt edu пише: 
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 07:47:42 -0500, Dovid Bender said: 
> > What kind of internet are these devices on? With Net Neutrality gone 
> > here in the US it would be a good way to measure certain services 
> > such as SIP to see which ISP's if any are tampering with packets. 
>
> Given previous history, the answer will probably be "most of them". 
>
> "The results are not inspiring. More than 129 million people are 
> limited to a single provider for broadband Internet access using the 
> FCC definition of 25 Mbps download and 3 Mbps upload. Out of those 129 
> million Americans, about 52 million must obtain Internet access from a 
> company that has violated network neutrality protections in the past and continues to undermine the policy today. 
>
> In locations where subscribers have the benefit of limited 
> competition, the situation isn't much better. Among the 146 million 
> Americans with the ability to choose between two providers, 48 million 
> Americans must choose between two companies that have a record of violating network neutrality." 
>
> https://muninetworks.org/content/177-million-americans-harmed-net-neut 
> rality