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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)


From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 12:48:49 -0500 (CDT)

Blake Dunlap <ikiris () gmail com> wrote:
And the "unbalanced" peers / transit?

Surely it is too much to expect a service provider to actually provide
service even if it is not entirely fair and balanced.  It's not like, 
you know, anyone was paying them to provide a service ...


[...rewind...]

<Kevin_McElearney () cable comcast com> wrote:
This is a smart group.

Well, smart enough to at least try to see it for what it actually is.
Telling us we're smart and then expecting us to swallow a load doesn't
quite seem to work, judging from the last few responses you've had.


Some of us are actually businesspeople, so we understand the issues 
from multiple dimensions.  Including historical ones, where there are
both examples of Monopolies Gone Wild! (Spring Break Edition!) and 
also Government Regulation Gone Overboard.  If you'd like to say that
you're trying to leverage as much revenue as possible by taking advantage
of new trends (i.e. cord cutting) in a customer base that's at least 
partially without other reasonable options, while keeping investment 
costs as low as possible, well, then, we have the potential for an
honest conversation.

But if you're going to tell us about how you've managed to acquire
transit customers, that feels like the start of a dishonest discussion
because basically most of us here wouldn't buy transit from a cable
company unless it was the only available option, or there was some
other distorting reason - such as congestion - that caused such an
arrangement to be needed.


... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.


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