Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)

[Blake Dunlap <ikiris () gmail com>]

And the "unbalanced" peers / transit?

-Blake

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:41 AM, McElearney, Kevin
<Kevin_McElearney () cable comcast com> wrote:
> This is a smart group. If if that was true I think every internet site / service one visits from home would be a 
> negatively impacted.  That is not the case
>
> As I said before, Comcast also has over 40 balanced peers with plenty of capacity.  Wholesale $$ are very small, 
> highly competitive and only "skin in the game" to promote efficiencies
>
>       - Kevin
>
>
> > On May 15, 2014, at 12:01 PM, "Jared Mauch" <jared () puck nether net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On May 15, 2014, at 11:50 AM, McElearney, Kevin <Kevin_McElearney () cable comcast com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is no gaming on measurements and disputes are isolated and temporary with issues not unique over the history 
> > > of the internet.  I think all the same rhetorical quotes continue to be reused
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> > in the past most issues were transient for a few months as both sides got complaints, but while at RIPE earlier this 
> > week someone commented to me: there's no one provider you can buy access from to get a packet-loss free connection 
> > to all their other business partners/customers.  This hurts the entire marketplace when there is persistent 
> > congestion.
> >
> > Some of these issues are related to (as Craig called them) "Hypergiants" (OTT) but others are due to providers 
> > having poor capital models so they don't have "budget" for upgrading unless someone pays for that upgrade, vs seeing 
> > their existing customer base as that source for the capital.
> >
> > As an engineer, I'm hopeful that those responsible for budgeting will do the right thing.  As a greedy capitalist, 
> > please pay me more $$$.  It does feel a bit like tic-tac-toe with zero players in wargames though, the only way to 
> > win is to not play [games].
> >
> > - Jared