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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 11:27:31 -0700


On May 15, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei <jfmezei_nanog () vaxination ca> wrote:

On 14-05-15 10:26, Owen DeLong wrote:
Choosing between Comcast and a legacy Telco is like choosing between legionnaire’s disease and SARS.

Twisted pair is certantly "legacy".

Is there a feeling that coax cable/DOSCIS is also "legacy" in terms of
current capacity/speeds ? Or is that technology still considered viable
against FTTH ?

I realise that business practices make north american incumbents
undesirable compared to the rest of the world, especially Comcast's
dirty tricks with Netflix as an example.

But in terms of the last mile technology and wiring (for instance, homes
per HFC node) sre north american cavlecos up to par with the rest of the
world ?

I am not speaking specifically about any one company here.

In North America, very few places have any level of FTTH. If you are in a rural area with USF subsidies, you are more 
likely to have FTTH than many urban areas. Co-ax, or if you’re somewhat lucky, HFC is about the best last mile 
technology available to most US subscribers.

In states where some city invested in municipal FTTH on an open-access basis, the incumbent $CABLECOS and $TELCOS have 
fought hard to push legislation making it illegal for other cities in the state to do the same.

The state of broadband networks in the US in general can best be described as pathetic and/or apathetic when it comes 
to the consumer’s interest. Lilly Tomlin summed this up very well in a number of her early comedy sketches where she 
pretended to be a telephone company operator. Her catch phrase was “We don’t care. We don’t have to. We’re the phone 
company!”

Further, it appears that several of the $CABLECOS and $TELCOS will actually attempt to quash their more vocal opponents 
by discussing public comments they make on a personal basis with said opponents employer and using them as a 
“negotiating tactic”. Personally, I think this is one of the most underhanded and lowest forms of an act of desperation 
to try and squash public debate. To be very clear… This statement is absolutely not targeted at any one company. There 
were several.

Owen


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