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Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:50:21 -0800
Your problem is that you only focus on "Gun Crime". Yobs kicking you in the head until you become a drooling idiot for the rest of your life is also a violent crime. That happens a lot less in the US, because said yobs are often shot, except in places with gun bans. I'll take the higher risk of being shot for the MUCH lower risk of being mugged, beaten, stabbed, etc.; and the attendant generally more civil society that goes with it. I grew up in Ireland, where gun control did nothing to stop the IRA or the rise of criminal gangs, but has made being a street thug a pretty safe occupation. I much prefer the general lack of omnipresent fisticuffs in the US. If that means a higher risk of being shot, so be it. On the list of risks to my life and limb, it's 1/10 that of dying from medical malpractice, yet the AMA seems to think it's their bailiwick to try to ban guns. Physicians, heal thyselves. The headline is "More guns, less crime". Part of being free means having the means to defend yourself. -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of David Harley Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:45 AM To: 'David Lodge'; 'funsec' Subject: Re: [funsec] FBI: More Guns == Less Crime
The UK pulled all guns in the 90's. Violent crime quadrupled.
I don't think I can bear to get into this one again. But there is something I find surprising. I would have thought that this list includes some of the most hardened sceptics in the IT industry. Yet lobbyist fabrication, misrepresentation and sheer wishful thinking about UK gun crime, privacy issues and healthcare are recycled regularly and uncritically here. Now -that- is frightening. -- David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP Director of Malware Intelligence, ESET _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Gadi Evron (Dec 24)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 24)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Drsolly (Dec 24)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Larry Seltzer (Dec 24)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime David Lodge (Dec 24)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime David Harley (Dec 25)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Gadi Evron (Dec 25)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime David Harley (Dec 26)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Drsolly (Dec 25)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime David Harley (Dec 26)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 26)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Larry Seltzer (Dec 26)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime David Harley (Dec 27)
- UK and guns Gadi Evron (Dec 27)
- Re: UK and guns David Harley (Dec 27)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Steven Allison (Dec 27)
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- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Imri Goldberg (Dec 27)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime David Harley (Dec 28)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 29)