Re: <Cisco Message> Mike Lynn's controversial CiscoSecurity Presentation

["DAN MORRILL" <dan_20407 () msn com>]

> From what I understand (I am writing a major paper on Intellectual Property 
Protection right now, the Joy of being a student) the creator of the data 
has the direct right under Title 17 and the DMCA to determine how the data 
will be used (hence expiring CDR's and DRM).

If data is sent in error that does not limit or otherwise reduce the rights 
of the data owner, and the data owner can request that the data be removed. 
The data owner can also request assurances that the data has been removed 
from all parties that they believe have copies of that data. Cisco in their 
message has acted according to American law by requesting that all copies of 
the data that is held in private hands be deleted as they are the acting IP 
owners along with ISS. Cisco is acting as the agent of the IP owner (much 
like RIAA and MPAA do for artists and movie makers).

Their request is quite legal, and at least they were polite about it.

If anyone wants more data on this subject (which is way off topic for FD), I 
can provide it separately or as private conversation.

Regards,
Dan



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> From: Daniel <deeper () gmail com>
> Reply-To: Daniel <deeper () gmail com>
> To: Russell Smoak <rsmoak () cisco com>
> CC: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk, nanog () merit edu, 
> fergdawg () netzero net
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] <Cisco Message> Mike Lynn's controversial 
> CiscoSecurity Presentation
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:24:33 +0100
>
> This raises an interesting point, if intellectual property is sent in
> error, do any of the laws pertaining to said property apply 100% or is
> there a weird shift of how they are applied?
>
>
>
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> On 7/29/05, Russell Smoak <rsmoak () cisco com> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > These recipients received an email from Austin Mckinley as Cisco 
> Systems.
> >
> > This messasge was sent in complete error and includes intellectual
> > property of ISS and Cisco Systems.  Please delete and do not distrbute
> > the information any further.
> >
> > If you have any quesitons, please contact the Cisco PSIRT team.
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your cooperation.
> >
> >
> >
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