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RE: Network Traffic Violations
From: Rick Smith <rick_smith () securecomputing com>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:01:10 -0500
At 02:41 PM 9/10/98 -0600, jrtietsort wrote:Telco-ISP's will survive because the provide the same bandwidth to each user regardless of how many users in your area are using the service. I think you'll find that cable modems, you are sharing bandwidth with all the other houses in your area.
Off topic, but their survival depends on their adaptability. Just about any practical communications infrastructure is going to share resources, so they're all vulnerable to degradation. For example, the telco/ISP combination usually suffers from a finite modem bank size. It's too soon to tell how much the user population must grow before typical cable modem performance is only 10 times faster than the telco/ISP combination. Perhaps the vendors will be able to scale up their infrastructure to keep customers happy and throughput high. Time will tell. At 09:58 AM 9/11/98 -0400, Ted Doty wrote:
Also, make sure your Windows boxes aren't sharing their C:\ drive to Everyone, otherwise everyone in your neighborhood will be able to browse your Quicken files ...
I've been wondering about that, though our home has Macs as opposed to PCs, and sharing is still through Localtalk. I didn't study the report on the Windows problem when it first came through -- I assumed my small town wouldn't see such a cutting edge technology so soon, and our business customers usually invest in Real Network Connections. I'm not familiar with how Windows sharing is implemented, but my intuition is that our local cable modem implementation might not suffer from the problem. The cable modem is installed on an in-home LAN of two or more 10BaseT hosts. One workstation on the LAN is allowed to use the Internet, and its IP address is stored inside the cable modem (configured with an HTML form). All Internet packets are NATted so the local workstation only sees its own address on the Internet packets. The local workstation doesn't really have a mechanism to find out its Internet address. So, if Windows sharing uses LAN broadcast, then the LAN broadcast won't be relayed unless the cable modem is really bone headed (not impossible, of course). Since the local workstation can not find out its address on the Internet, it can't fashion packets to automatically talk to other cable modems in its "neighborhood" without some sort of broadcast. So, does anyone remember how the reported problem worked? How does this situation compare to it? Rick. smith () securecomputing com
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- Re: Network Traffic Violations Colin Campbell (Sep 06)
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- Re: Network Traffic Violations Antonomasia (Sep 06)
- Re[2]: Network Traffic Violations Mike Baxter (Sep 07)
- Re: Network Traffic Violations Bill_Royds (Sep 10)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations jrtietsort (Sep 10)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Ted Doty (Sep 11)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Rick Smith (Sep 11)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Ted Doty (Sep 13)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Rick Smith (Sep 13)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations David Lang (Sep 14)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Dominique Brezinski (Sep 15)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Rick Smith (Sep 11)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Woody Weaver (Sep 13)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Paul D. Robertson (Sep 14)