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RE: Network Traffic Violations
From: Dominique Brezinski <dom_brezinski () securecomputing com>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:29:36 -0500
At 12:01 PM 9/11/98 -0500, Rick Smith wrote:
At 02:41 PM 9/10/98 -0600, jrtietsort wrote:Telco-ISP's will survive because the provide the same bandwidth to each user regardless of how many users in your area are using the service. I think you'll find that cable modems, you are sharing bandwidth with all the other houses in your area.Off topic, but their survival depends on their adaptability. Just about any practical communications infrastructure is going to share resources, so they're all vulnerable to degradation. For example, the telco/ISP combination usually suffers from a finite modem bank size. It's too soon to tell how much the user population must grow before typical cable modem performance is only 10 times faster than the telco/ISP combination. Perhaps the vendors will be able to scale up their infrastructure to keep customers happy and throughput high. Time will tell.
Wow, this is really off topic, but here is my 2 cents anyway. The current/next generation of telco service for data connections is Digital Subscriber Line (DSL or xDSL). DSL is the competitor to cable modems, not standard analog modem technology. In a former life ;) I worked on interactive TV stuff, specifically the delivery networks. How you get lots of bandwidth to the home is a fundamental problem in the interactive TV world, so we looked at this problem extensively. The analyst projections showed cables modems were a short term stop gap technology and DSL was the long term solution. The primary technical reason for this is the scalability of the network topology. Cable modems use the coax network of the cable distribution plant, which is essentially a big coax bus. There is a limited amount of bandwidth the coax bus can provide. In order to support more users you have to do one of two things: install more coax buses (throughout neighborhoods and into peoples homes) or reduce the amount of bandwidth available to each customer (degrade service). DSL uses the standard cat3 pair already installed in a vast majority of homes. A DSL device connects to one end of the pair in the users home, while the other end is connected to a line card at the central telco office (CO). The bandwidth from the customer to CO is fixed (not shared and will not degrade). The line card is essential an interface in an ATM switch. The Internet connection (T1, T3, or OC-x) is connected into the ATM network. The ATM network is the shared resource here, so in order to support more users one of two things can be done: increase the speed of the ATM backbone or reduce the amount of bandwidth available to each customer. Well, it is way cheaper and easier to increase the capacity of the ATM network at the CO or ISP than it is to install more coax throughout the neighborhood. Market demand can be met faster and more economically without degrading the current customer's service with DSL. Cable modems may look attractive to some now, but in a few years.... ATM also provides better bandwidth management facilities, so your DSL provider can give you guaranteed bandwidth if you need it and are willing to pay for it. Cable companies just technically can't give you this level of service. Dominique Brezinski CISSP (612)628-5378 Secure Computing http://www.securecomputing.com
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- Re: Network Traffic Violations Bill_Royds (Sep 10)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations jrtietsort (Sep 10)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Ted Doty (Sep 11)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Rick Smith (Sep 11)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Ted Doty (Sep 13)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Rick Smith (Sep 13)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations David Lang (Sep 14)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Dominique Brezinski (Sep 15)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Rick Smith (Sep 11)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Woody Weaver (Sep 13)
- RE: Network Traffic Violations Paul D. Robertson (Sep 14)