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Re: AV - Full scans or On Access Scans


From: "Di Fabio, Andrea" <adifabio () NSU EDU>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:38:13 -0400

Great thread,

Has anyone talked to AV vendors about offline scanning?  Newest threats such
as rootkits and VM based malware are getting increasingly difficult to
detect while the OS is running.

I have been asking different AV companies about their plans to implement
offline scanning where a PC would reboot, load a lightweight OS over PXE,
complete a scan and then reboot from its local disk.  So far, I have been
unable to spark such interest in the AV companies.

IMHO, automating and scheduling such process is something that AV companies
should start looking at.  Also, given the fact that more and more
datacenters are deploying VM's as part of consolidation and green
initiatives, a solution that could scan a VM image will also be beneficial.

Andrea Di Fabio
Information Security Officer
High Performance Computing Technology Coordinator
Norfolk State University
Office of Information Technology
Marie V. McDemmond Center for Applied Research, Rm 401F
555 Park Avenue, Suite 401
Norfolk, Virginia 23504
757-823-2896 Office
757-823-2128 Fax


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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] AV - Full scans or On Access Scans

On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:58:25 EDT, "David A. Batastini" said:

                I'm trying to get the pulse of what other educational
institutions are doing when it comes to managing AV scans on
endpoints. Do you schedule full system scans or do you rely on the "on
Access" scans to detect malware? If you run full system scans: how
often, and what time are they set to run? If you do not run full
system scans,  how do you mitigate the security risk of new malware (
malware that AV did not detect during the initial on access scan)?

"An interesting game - the only way to win is not to play" -- War Games

If merely checking for "Have I been hacked already?" is itself taking enough
resources to cause problems, perhaps you're starting off with the wrong
computing platform.  There *are* options...

Just sayin'. :)

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