Re: Firefox as default browser in labs

[Kevin Smith <kjsmith () UMN EDU>]

Paul--

The setting Jim is referring to can be found in Outlook 2003 by going to Tools, Options, Preferences tab, Email Options 
button.  You'll find the "Read all standard mail as plain text" checkbox in the Mail Handling section.

Kevin Smith
Service Desk Manager
College of Liberal Arts Office of Information Technology (CLA-OIT)
University of Minnesota
612.626.3667
kjsmith () umn edu



-----Original Message-----
From: Howell, Paul [mailto:grue () umich edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:45 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Firefox as default browser in labs

I don't believe such an option exists in outlook.  You may be confusing the option specifing the type  for composition 
of new messages with reading messages?

The HTML rendering engine that IE uses is the same one used by the help function and the HTML version of explorer.

When an HTML email shows up in outlook, the MS supplied HTML engine (the same one IE uses) is invoked to process the 
HTML.

While it is probably the case that non-MS browsers use their own HTML engines, it's highly unlikely that MS products 
use something other then the internal MS supplied HTML rendering engine.  This means that both environments have to 
remain patched.

< paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Rizzo [mailto:jrizzo () PROVIDENCE EDU]
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:37 AM
> To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
> Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Firefox as default browser in labs
>
> There is an option in Outlook to read all standard mail as plain text.  
> I also use Thunderbird, so I have never used this option.  :)
>
> As for AIM, I don't really recommend using that either because of all 
> the AIM virus issues.  I use Gaim.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Rizzo
> Helpdesk Manager
> Providence College
> (401) 865-1277
> jrizzo () providence edu
> AIM: JRizzoPC
>
> Ken Layng wrote:
> > Honestly, I don't know - I use Thunderbird  :-).  But it
> would be easy
> > enough to test it.  Perhaps there's a way to configure that
> within the
> > client.  I did have a similar issue with links in AIM
> opening via IE.
> > Howell, Paul wrote:
> > > IETab would be helpful to Firefox browsers hitting web
> pages that work
> > > with IE only, such as OWA, but I don't think it would be
> used by say the
> > > Outlook fat client when opening an HTML message.  Outlook
> would still
> > > use the MS IE engine to render the HTML.
> > >
> > > Or have you found differently?
> > >
> > > < paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >    From: Ken Layng [mailto:kml18 () PSU EDU] 
> > >    Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:09 PM
> > >    To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
> > >    Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Firefox as default browser in labs
> > >    
> > >    
> > >    Firefox has a very nice extension called "IETab", which enables a 
> > > user to define certain pages or sites to open via an internal IE 
> > > engine by default - VERY nice.  It also has a toggle
> button which allows
> > > the user to render these either way on the fly.  Moreover, you can 
> > > create an msi package with a sub-set of extensions, and
> deploy those to
> > > users and labs via GPO.  I virtually never open IE anymore
> - even for MS
> > > updates and sites that require IE.
> > >    
> > >    Howell, Paul wrote: 
> > >
> > >            I think the issue is a little worse than just 3rd party apps.  
> > > Most MS
> > >            products use the IE engine to render HTML.  This being the case, 
> > > you
> > >            still have to apply all IE patches to ensure that the engine is 
> > > update
> > >            to date for products such as office and outlook.
> > >            
> > >            Using Firefox instead of IE just means that instead of one piece 
> > > of
> > >            software that you have to maintain, you now have two that must be
> > >            maintained.  
> > >            
> > >            Is that really what you wanted to do?
> > >            
> > >            < paul
> > >            
> > >            
> > >              
> > >
> > >                    -----Original Message-----
> > >                    From: Jeff Kell [mailto:jeff-kell () UTC EDU] 
> > >                    Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:36 PM
> > >                    To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
> > >                    Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Firefox as default browser in labs
> > >                    
> > >                    Vicky Walker wrote:
> > >                        
> > >
> > >                            Basically, you need to be careful about any purchased
> > >                                  
> > >
> > >                    products before
> > >                        
> > >
> > >                            eliminating IE altogether. 
> > >                                  
> > >
> > >                    and/or, be careful about any future purchased products that
> > >                    *require* IE :-)
> > >                    
> > >                    Jeff
> > >                    
> > >                        
> > >
> > >            
> > >            
> > >            
> > >              
> > >
> > >
> > >    --
> > >    
> > >    
> > >    Ken Layng
> > >    The Pennsylvania State University
> > >    ITS/TLT/Training Services
> > >    23 Willard
> > >    814-863-8800
> > >    kml18 () psu edu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ken Layng
> > The Pennsylvania State University
> > ITS/TLT/Training Services
> > 23 Willard
> > 814-863-8800
> > kml18 () psu edu <mailto:kml18 () psu edu>