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Re: Automatic Exploitation Paper Peer Review
From: William Arbaugh <warbaugh () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:23:45 -0500
I don't think there is so much a gap between academia and the "real world" as there is a difference of focus. In academia, it is all about publish or perish and obtaining grant money. In the real world, it is about producing working artifacts that contribute to your company. The result is that pure academics reject the work outside of academia (and the work of some within academia) as too pragmatic. Those working in the real world reject most academic work as impractical (rightfully so in many cases). Ideally, we need a continuum of work from completely theoretical (pure academic) to completely mission focused. The middle is the sweet spot (IMHO) were people from academia and the real world focus on problems that advance theory and are practical. This middle ground is, however, a difficult place to succeed since you will be straddling two vastly different communities- likely explaining why we see so little work bridging the gap. On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Arrigo Triulzi wrote:
------- Original message -------A question on sci.crypt pertaining to a group key exchange protocol that includes a component at the perimeter (ie, a three party group with a firewall agent): "I know nothing about practical systems. Sorry." http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/7ec818609250b950I stand corrected and appalled, sigh. I wonder why linking any form of practicality into computing academia produces such dire results. Perhaps that is why I left academia a long time ago... Arrigo (a failed pure mathematician in a previous life) _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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