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Re: Automatic Exploitation Paper Peer Review
From: Jon Solworth <solworth () rites uic edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:47:37 -0600
On Dec 11, 2010, at 3:20 AM, Arrigo Triulzi wrote:
------- Original message -------So with these restrictions, its hard to see how it has any real world, practical impact at all.Welcome to the world of academia... but did you notice the impressive list of references to other similarly useful papers? I have always found it worrying that there appears to be a quality gap between academics working on tough problems (e.g. Eros/Coyote and secure operating systems, processor hacking, crypto, etc.) and those working on what we face on a daily basis. Why?
Arrigo, Are you comparing two classes of academics, those working or hard problems and those working on today's problems? If so, I'm not sure that they are working on different problems, it seems to me that they are looking at different ways of attacking the same tough problem. But the second class has so many more constraints than the first class that it is very difficult to obtain full solutions. Thus, solutions are partial. Now the question is whether these partial solutions extend to useful solutions? Maybe. But the history in security is not good. Because the constraints are reduced (and because complexity matters so much in security), it seems to me that the first class has a much better chance of solving these problems than the second. Jon
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- Re: Automatic Exploitation Paper Peer Review Arrigo Triulzi (Dec 11)
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