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RE: Best spyware program


From: "David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:50:12 -0700

  Amidst all the public discussion about this issue, I have
yet to see any directions telling how to display and/or
modify the "ignore" list.  Anybody?

David Gillett


-----Original Message-----
From: Lett, Craig [mailto:Craig.Lett () usfc com]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Eric Webster; Bapodara, Shyamal
Cc: security-basics () lists securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Best spyware program


Taken From newsletter () spywareinfo com Interesting Article 
---------------------------------------  Microsoft Going Soft 
On Adware Permalink | Top  First there were the rumors that 
Microsoft is considering buying Claria, the company 
responsible for creating and distributing Gator adware. 
Shortly thereafter, it was discovered that Microsoft's 
antispyware program has been altered by a program update to 
ignore all adware automatically.   This seems almost like a 
repeat of the situation with Yahoo's antispyware toolbar last 
year. Yahoo and Claria have significant financial dealings 
through Overture, which is owned by Yahoo. Claria makes the 
bulk of its income through Overture. Not long after Yahoo 
included an antispyware scanner into their Internet Explorer 
toolbar, it was discovered that they had altered it to ignore 
adware.   Yahoo's toolbar uses spyware detection code 
licensed from PestPatrol (now owned by Computer Associates). 
PestPatrol's own antispyware program did not have the ability 
to ignore all adware, only individual products if the user 
chose to ignore them. After experiencing a massive run of bad 
publicity, Yahoo changed their toolbar so that it would 
detect adware by default.   Microsoft's first response to 
questions about their antispyware program ignoring Claria was 
to refuse to comment. Their second response was to flatly 
deny that Claria is receiving any special favors. They claim 
now that the change was made in order to be "fair and 
consistent" with how Microsoft AntiSpy handles adware from 
companies similar to Claria. As it turns out, several adware 
products have been placed on AntiSpy's ignore list.   
Whatever the reason, this means that Gator, Dashbar and other 
adware could install on a computer supposedly protected by 
Microsoft AntiSpy, without warnings popping up. Since 
Microsoft altered their users' settings without informing 
them, those users may not realize that they have to change 
their ignore list in order to detect these adware programs. If a user 
dware programs will not show up in the results because they 
are on the ignore list.   The question that needs to be asked 
now is: "Can Microsoft's AntiSpy program be trusted?". It is 
bad enough that they decided to move all adware products to 
the ignore list by default. However loudly the adware 
industry screams that their software is not malicious, the 
fact remains that very few people want it on their computer. 
People use antispyware scanners because they expect them to 
find adware as well as the truly malicious stuff.   The 
problem is that Microsoft used an update to the program to 
alter their users' settings, without informing them. They may 
think that adware should be on the ignore list but I 
seriously doubt that their users would agree. Their users 
expected that the program would alert them to the presence of 
adware. Since as far back as late March, these users have 
been unprotected by a program they were told they could 
trust. Well, that trust has been broken. Can this program 
ever be trusted again?   Update After I wrote this but, 
thankfully, before sending it out, more rumors have surfaced 
about the Microsoft/Claria acquisition talks. According to an 
article on ClickZ News, Microsoft has abandoned the idea of 
purchasing Claria. It would seem that the bad press they 
received over the rumor caused them to abandon the idea. I 
believe that odd sound you hear is the entire internet 
breathing a sigh of relief.    Craig Lett Security 
Administrator USF Technology Services 630 Kenmoor Ave SE, 
Suite 200 Grand Rapids, MI 49546 craig.lett () usfc com    
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-- -----Original Message----- From: Eric Webster 
[mailto:sophomeric () gmail com]  Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:25 AM To:
Bapodara, Shyamal Cc: security-basics () lists securityfocus com Subject: Re:
Best spyware program   I am not sure if my answer is on track with what you
are looking for, but I personally am liking the Microsoft Anti-Spyware
program. It may be yware since I deployed it.  On 7/20/05, Bapodara, Shyamal
<Shyamal.Bapodara () earthtech com> wrote: > Hello Team > I do like to test
different so called "free"  software available  > online. What is the best
to test if they don't have any spyware in it  > once it is installed? What
will be the best way to test these with out  > compromising my system?
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