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RE: Best spyware program
From: "Lett, Craig" <Craig.Lett () usfc com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:07:09 -0400
Taken From newsletter () spywareinfo com Interesting Article --------------------------------------- Microsoft Going Soft On Adware Permalink | Top First there were the rumors that Microsoft is considering buying Claria, the company responsible for creating and distributing Gator adware. Shortly thereafter, it was discovered that Microsoft's antispyware program has been altered by a program update to ignore all adware automatically. This seems almost like a repeat of the situation with Yahoo's antispyware toolbar last year. Yahoo and Claria have significant financial dealings through Overture, which is owned by Yahoo. Claria makes the bulk of its income through Overture. Not long after Yahoo included an antispyware scanner into their Internet Explorer toolbar, it was discovered that they had altered it to ignore adware. Yahoo's toolbar uses spyware detection code licensed from PestPatrol (now owned by Computer Associates). PestPatrol's own antispyware program did not have the ability to ignore all adware, only individual products if the user chose to ignore them. After experiencing a massive run of bad publicity, Yahoo changed their toolbar so that it would detect adware by default. Microsoft's first response to questions about their antispyware program ignoring Claria was to refuse to comment. Their second response was to flatly deny that Claria is receiving any special favors. They claim now that the change was made in order to be "fair and consistent" with how Microsoft AntiSpy handles adware from companies similar to Claria. As it turns out, several adware products have been placed on AntiSpy's ignore list. Whatever the reason, this means that Gator, Dashbar and other adware could install on a computer supposedly protected by Microsoft AntiSpy, without warnings popping up. Since Microsoft altered their users' settings without informing them, those users may not realize that they have to change their ignore list in order to detect these adware programs. If a user runs a scan of their hard drive, those adware programs will not show up in the results because they are on the ignore list. The question that needs to be asked now is: "Can Microsoft's AntiSpy program be trusted?". It is bad enough that they decided to move all adware products to the ignore list by default. However loudly the adware industry screams that their software is not malicious, the fact remains that very few people want it on their computer. People use antispyware scanners because they expect them to find adware as well as the truly malicious stuff. The problem is that Microsoft used an update to the program to alter their users' settings, without informing them. They may think that adware should be on the ignore list but I seriously doubt that their users would agree. Their users expected that the program would alert them to the presence of adware. Since as far back as late March, these users have been unprotected by a program they were told they could trust. Well, that trust has been broken. Can this program ever be trusted again? Update After I wrote this but, thankfully, before sending it out, more rumors have surfaced about the Microsoft/Claria acquisition talks. According to an article on ClickZ News, Microsoft has abandoned the idea of purchasing Claria. It would seem that the bad press they received over the rumor caused them to abandon the idea. I believe that odd sound you hear is the entire internet breathing a sigh of relief. Craig Lett Security Administrator USF Technology Services 630 Kenmoor Ave SE, Suite 200 Grand Rapids, MI 49546 craig.lett () usfc com ---------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Eric Webster [mailto:sophomeric () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:25 AM To: Bapodara, Shyamal Cc: security-basics () lists securityfocus com Subject: Re: Best spyware program I am not sure if my answer is on track with what you are looking for, but I personally am liking the Microsoft Anti-Spyware program. It may be in beta, but I haven't heard anyone on my network complaining about spyware since I deployed it. On 7/20/05, Bapodara, Shyamal <Shyamal.Bapodara () earthtech com> wrote:
Hello Team I do like to test different so called "free" software available online. What is the best to test if they don't have any spyware in it once it is installed? What will be the best way to test these with out
compromising my system? Thanks Shyamal This e-mail is intended to be delivered only to the named addressee(s)
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- Best spyware program Bapodara, Shyamal (Jul 20)
- Re: Best spyware program Eric Webster (Jul 21)
- RE: Best spyware program Marlon Ngantung (Jul 22)
- Re: Best spyware program Atom Powers (Jul 26)
- Re: Best spyware program John D. Patota (Jul 22)
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- Re: Best spyware program lusid65 (Jul 21)
- RE: Best spyware program McKinley, Jackson (Jul 22)
- RE: Best spyware program Lett, Craig (Jul 22)
- RE: Best spyware program David Gillett (Jul 26)
- MS not buying Gator, er, Claria after all Dave Aronson (Jul 26)
- RE: Best spyware program Bill Stout (Jul 26)
- Re: Best spyware program McLain Causey (Jul 26)
- Re: RE: Best spyware program nickledesma (Jul 26)
- Re: RE: Best spyware program knieveltech (Jul 26)
- RE: RE: Best spyware program Brad Berson (Jul 29)
- RE: Best spyware program Craig Wright (Jul 29)
- RE: RE: Best spyware program Mike Fetherston (Jul 29)
- Re: Best spyware program Eric Webster (Jul 21)