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Re: hacksdmi?


From: Steve Mosher <farq () KILN ISN NET>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:43:53 -0300

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, aliver vilereal wrote:

And here is a question for the list:
If the watermark is hidden in the least significant bits, a program could
set all these bits to zero and this should effectively disable the
watermark, because I am guessing that to compute the watermark an _exact_
match must be made with the output of some decoding algorithm.  If the
watermark is all NIL, there is no way that this could possibly match the
watermark.  Would this have been an effective method to win the HACKSDMI
challenge, are were they looking for an exact replica of the original, even
though the new one with NIL bits has no audible difference?

        Really, what matters is that if zeroing the low bits would
annhiliate the watermark while leaving the audible sound unchanged, then
SDMI is useless. If they want an exact replica then they're thinking too
narrowly, since MP3s themselves cannot recreate the original (MP3s
started the SDMI effort, IIRC.)


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