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Re: hacksdmi?
From: "Bluefish (P.Magnusson)" <11a () GMX NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:59:59 +0200
This maybe a silly question but, couldn't they put a watermark into the sound by using sounds that we cannot hear? Very high or very low frequencies could be used, so could sounds that will be overpowered by the watermarked content.
This is one technique that actually is defeated by none-malicious processing ; it won't survive filters (low-, hi-, bandpass etc). It is also unlikely to survive many different compression techiques. Given loosy DA->AD->DA conversion, it probably won't survive that as well. And, if it is strange short peaks of sounds on a high frequency, it becomes detectable as well - you can algorithmitcly determin that that there are suspicious peaks (short waveforms with frequency above hearable limits). So it's actually the worst kind of watermark ;) ..:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.. http://www.11a.nu || http://bluefish.11a.nu eleventh alliance development & security team http://www.eff.org/cafe
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- Re: hacksdmi?, (continued)
- Re: hacksdmi? Blue Boar (Oct 13)
- Re: hacksdmi? Granquist, Lamont (Oct 14)
- Re: hacksdmi? Ben Galehouse (Oct 15)
- Re: hacksdmi? David Knaack (Oct 16)
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- Re: hacksdmi? Jord Sonneveld (Oct 11)
- Re: hacksdmi? aliver vilereal (Oct 12)
- Re: hacksdmi? Ralph Moonen (Oct 12)
- Re: hacksdmi? Steve Mosher (Oct 12)
- Re: hacksdmi? Everhart, Glenn (FUSA) (Oct 12)
- Re: hacksdmi? Brooke, O'neil (EXP) (Oct 16)
- Re: hacksdmi? Bluefish (P.Magnusson) (Oct 19)
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- Re: hacksdmi? Steve Mosher (Oct 20)
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- Re: hacksdmi? Richard Rager (Oct 24)
- Re: hacksdmi? Erhard Schwenk (Oct 24)
- Re: hacksdmi? Ian Stoba (Oct 20)
- Re: hacksdmi? Christian (Oct 24)
- Re: hacksdmi? Bluefish (P.Magnusson) (Oct 24)
- Re: hacksdmi? Damian Menscher (Oct 24)
- Re: hacksdmi? Vitaly Osipov (Oct 27)
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- Re: hacksdmi? Blue Boar (Oct 13)