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RE: The home user problem returns
From: "Bill Royds" <bill () royds net>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:11:21 -0400
One of the main problems with MS Operating Systems is that one must run as root (administrator) to make it useful since a local user can't even use things like USB ports since they require admin privileges to connect. Supposedly Microsoft Vista will run as local user by default, but 90% or more of Windows home users now run with admin privileges. Anyone who has ever administered a Unix shop would shiver if all users were running as root be default. Yet that is what most home users are doing. Funny enough, Mac OSX does not run as root be default yet people can install software. If Microsoft simply added a patch to XP SP2 to force a password dialogue when something was installed or registry changed, we would reduce the virus threat considerably. -----Original Message----- From: firewall-wizards-admin () honor icsalabs com [mailto:firewall-wizards-admin () honor icsalabs com] On Behalf Of Jim Seymour Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:51 PM To: firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] The home user problem returns Mason Schmitt <mason () schmitt ca> wrote:
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I don't think people should have to know much about computer security, "security apps" like anti-virus, firewalls, etc. I think that computers should be ubiquitous, non intrusive and largely trustworthy. The problem is that this is so far from current reality as to be easily confused with fantasy.
[snip] As long a companies like Microsoft continue to sell a general purpose operating system to the public, much of it poorly thought-out and/or poorly designed and/or poorly coded, complete with applications that are "designed" with a fine disregard for what those of us with more sense regard as "security boundaries," representing it all as an easy, user-friendly, maintenance-free "experience," this will not change. Jim _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: The home user problem returns, (continued)
- Re: The home user problem returns Mason Schmitt (Sep 13)
- RE: The home user problem returns Paul Melson (Sep 13)
- Re: The home user problem returns Mason Schmitt (Sep 13)
- Re: The home user problem returns Jim Seymour (Sep 13)
- RE: The home user problem returns Tina Bird (Sep 14)
- RE: The home user problem returns Paul Melson (Sep 22)
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- Re: The home user problem returns Mason Schmitt (Sep 12)
- RE: The home user problem returns Paul Melson (Sep 13)
- Re: The home user problem returns Mason Schmitt (Sep 13)
- Re: The home user problem returns Jim Seymour (Sep 13)
- RE: The home user problem returns Bill Royds (Sep 14)
- RE: The home user problem returns Jim Seymour (Sep 22)
- RE: The home user problem returns Brian Loe (Sep 22)
- Re: The home user problem returns R. DuFresne (Sep 13)
- Re: The home user problem returns Mason Schmitt (Sep 13)
- RE: The home user problem returns Tina Bird (Sep 13)
- Re: The home user problem returns Mason Schmitt (Sep 13)
- RE: The home user problem returns Tina Bird (Sep 13)
- Re: The home user problem returns Mason Schmitt (Sep 14)
- Re: The home user problem returns Chris Blask (Sep 22)
- RE: The home user problem returns Sanford Reed (Sep 13)