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Re: WIRELESS THEFT


From: ONEILL David J <David.J.Oneill () state or us>
Date: 18 Oct 2002 07:55:34 -0700

Not to flame you, but   W R O N G ! ! ! . . .

This would be no different than using a ham radio.  If you broadcast the
message, even if you intended it to be received by a single recipient, you
still have no legal expectations that no one but the intended target will
listen and/or respond (becoming a participant in the communication link.) 
Therefore, if the transmitter does not take any action to limit who can
received an respond to the broadcast signal, its their problem.  That said, if
your are hacking though a authentication system to use the openly broadcast
signal, then I would say that you may be breaking into some legal issues.

The analogies of cutting into a water line or splicing into a cable do not
even fit this situation.

David J. O'Neill
NEDSS - IS7
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Phone: (503) 378-2101 ext. 364
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Ishmann () aol com 10/17/02 06:53PM >>>
One of the things you should be looking at is >>>> Are you a member of their
organization (a resident??) If not then it is not for you to use.  Example
would be, a group of homes get water piped or brought into there property. 
You in turn tap into that pipe ..... lets say because it leaks someplace close
to your property.  What the law will say, as a responsible neighbor did you
tell the coop about the leak?  Knowing that they pay for that water.  Or in
another version did you tap into the pipe to get water, knowing that it does
not belong to you. 
Reality is you know it is not yours to use.  If you should get caught it is
hard to claim ignorance if you only pay for dial up and they have some DSL, RR
type service :)and you are using it!  So you be your own guide there.  It is
still considered theft of service (Using that which you do not pay for or does
not belong to you)... Theyre are numerous tort cases with telephone and cable
companies and wireless services that cover this issue, (not to mention federal
and state laws that now also cover this issue) you dont necessarily want to be
the one that they make the case about :) if you know what I mean....

Aloha
Bob
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                                                              
                                        


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