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From: arian.evans at anachronic.com (Arian J. Evans)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 08:50:37 -0800

In the web security world it doesn't seem to matter much. Top(n) Lists
are Top(n).

There is much ideological disagreement over what goes in those lists
and why, but the ratios of defects are fairly consistent. Both with
managed code and with "scripting" languages.

The WhiteHat Security statistics report provides some interesting
insights into this, particularly the last one. It's one of the only
public stats reports out there for webappsec that I know of.

I have observed what I've thought to be differences anecdotally, but
when we crunch the numbers on a large scale, they average out and
issue ratios are fairly consistent. Which shows you the dangerous
power of anecdotes, and statistically small samples, to be misleading.

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Arian Evans
Software Security Statistician


On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:07 AM, McGovern, James F. (eBusiness)
<James.McGovern at thehartford.com> wrote:
Here's an example. ?In the BSIMM, ?10 of 30 firms have built top-N bug
lists based on their >own data culled from their >own code. ?I would
love to see how those top-n lists compare to the > OWASP top ten or the
CWE-25. ?I would also love to see whether the union of these lists is
even remotely interesting.

One of the general patterns I noted while providing feedback to the
OWASP Top Ten listserv is that top ten lists do sort differently. Within
an enterprise setting, it is typical for enterprise applications to be
built on Java, .NET or other compiled languages where as if I were doing
an Internet startup I may leverage more scripting approaches. So, if
different demographics have different behaviors what would a converged
list or even a separate list tell us?

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