Re: 44/8

[Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>]

I think there is a key misconception here. 

The original IANA delegation to “Amateur Radio Digital Communication” was not to any organization with such a name, but 
was a statement of the purpose of the delegation. An individual who initiated the process took on the administration of 
the block in trust on behalf of the global amateur radio community. At the time of this allocation, there was only one 
global IP address registry and no such thing as an RIR. 

The subsequent formation of an organization by that name and transfer of administrative control into that organization 
went largely without objection by the amateur radio community because:

1. Most of us probably didn’t even know it happened. 

2. Those that did likely expected this organization to continue as previous administrators in trust on behalf of the 
community. 

From my perspective, the delegation of a large block to CAIDA for an unrelated purpose now looks like an initial test 
of “can we get away with this”. 

I honestly don’t know who is behind ARDC (the organization), but some of the names bandied about are people I know and 
believe to be deserving of the benefit of the doubt. As such, I’m still trying to learn more before I go full tilt 
hostile on this, but it seems to me that something is definitely rotten in the state here. 

Once I have a few more facts (or believe I’m unlikely to be able to get them), I’ll be filing a fraud report with ARIN. 

I encourage others with any relevant information or knowledge of the history of 44/8 to do the same. 

Owen


> On Jul 19, 2019, at 08:34, Matt Harris <matt () netfire net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:29 AM John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:
>
> > Matt - 
> >
> > Chris is correct.   Those who received IPv4 address blocks by InterNIC (or its predecessors) prior to the inception 
> > of ARIN on 22 December 1997 are legacy resource holders, and continue to receive those same registry services for 
> > those blocks (Whois, reverse DNS, ability to update) without any need for an agreement with ARIN.  This has been 
> > provided without any fee to the original registrants (or their legal successors) as recognition of their 
> > contributions to the early Internet.
>
> Hey John, I understand that, however my understanding is that the establishment of an ARIN RSA is required prior to 
> the transfer of a block or a portion or a block via ARIN (such as the transfer of 44.192/10). Thus, this would mean 
> that the 44/8 block is now governed by an (well, more than one, now that it's split) ARIN RSA (or LRSA) whereas it 
> was not before.  Is that not correct?  
>
> Thanks!