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Re: NAT444 or ?


From: Arturo Servin <arturo.servin () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:35:45 -0300


        NAT444 alone is not enough.

        You will need to deploy it along with 6rd or DS-lite.

        Whilst you still have global v4, use it. The best is to deploy dual-stack, but that won't last for too long.

Regards,
as-



On 1 Sep 2011, at 15:36, Serge Vautour wrote:

Hello,

Things I understand: IPv6 is the long term solution to IPv4 exhaustion. For IPv6 to work correctly, most of the IPv4 
content has to be on IPv6. That's not there yet. IPv6 deployment to end users is not trivial (end user support, CPE 
support, etc...). Translation techniques are generally evil. IPv6->IPv4 still requires 1 IPv4 IP per end user or else 
you're doing NAT. IPv4->IPv6 (1-1) doesn't solve our main problem of giving users access to the IPv4 Internet.


I expect like most companies we're faced with having to extend the life of IPv4 since our users will continue to want 
access to the IPv4 content. Doing that by giving them an IPv6 address is not very feasible yet for many reasons. 
NAT444 seems like the only solution available while we slowly transition over to IPv6 over the next 20 years. Based 
on the this RFC, NAT444 breaks a lot of applications!

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-donley-nat444-impacts-01

Has anyone deployed NAT444? Can folks share their experiences? Does it really break this many apps? What other 
options do we have? 


Thanks,
Serge



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