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RE: Packet Loss


From: Karyn Ulriksen <kulriksen () publichost com>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:18:31 -0800


Isn't there something in RFC 1149 or RFC 2549 about this?  Maybe another
update to these RFC will be required.

K

Reference:  
http://www.valkaryn.net/rfc/1149.txt
http://www.valkaryn.net/rfc/2549.txt


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Rall [mailto:trall () almaden ibm com]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:50 AM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Packet Loss




I'll speculate that it occurs when packets destined for a 
destination do
not get there.  Most people see it via dropped ping packets..

What ping really tells you is that either the packets from A 
to B are being
lost or those from B to A are being lost.  From the 
information that ping
presents there is no way to know which direction (and the 
routing may well
be asymmetric) is choking, nor if the problem is at one of 
the end points.

While I really like to use pings (with at least 100 samples) 
for testing
round trip packet loss, there are situations where it will 
give incorrect
results.  If the packet loss is data, packet size, or 
protocol dependent,
ping probably won't tell you about the performance to be 
expected for the
application that you're really interested in.  On top of 
that, some systems
will filter or throttle ICMP - this really distorts the results.

Tony Rall





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