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Re: Family tech support


From: Martin Hepworth <maxsec () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:03:54 +0000

2009/11/29 Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009, Theodore Pham wrote:


Drsolly wrote:
Daughter.1 has picked up a nasty, that wants her to pay for an
antivirus,
and keeps nagging at her. She already had Norton, but that doesn't seem
to
want to know. I don't know if she's updated it - probably not.

I didn't fancy wrestling with the malware to try to remove it, or go
back
to some previous checkpoint (there probably isn't one).

I offered her two solutions.

1) reinstall XP. She doesn't have the CDs (I don't think they came with
the computer). I suspect you can't buy XP now. Vista will cost her
about a
hundred pounds, and then she'll need to buy a new word processor, I'd
guess. Probably another hundred or two.

Have her run the free version of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
(http://www.malwarebytes.org/) to remove the fake antivirus. It's
surprisingly effective for removal.  Has a better UI for novices than
ComboFix and updates very frequently.

Then dump Norton and install either the newish free Microsoft Security
Essentials (http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/) or Avira's
free AntiVir (http://www.free-av.com/)

Also switch her to Firefox and make sure she has the latest Adobe
Flash/Reader. Tell her not to skip any of their updates.

 ... or ... install Linux.

Look, I don't want to fire up the old controversies, but for some people
(ladysolly, older daughter, me), it seems to have everything we need,
installs without any problems (even without asking questions about
hardware), and doesn't require constant pruning, weeding, tickling with
other software and general schmoozing to keep it running.

And Microsoft ought to be told this. In case they can make something
competitive.

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People I've used Combofix with tend to have the 'free' antivirus solutions
like AVG etc. Looks you pay for what you get in this arena.

Mac then? works well and you get lots of programs for it without fighting
with different install methods.

either way you still need to keep up to date wth latest patches
etc..mac/windows/linux.

-- 
Martin Hepworth
Oxford, UK
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