RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician?

["William Lefkovics" <william () emailonastick com>]

> > swimming pools, computers, and soccer are all apples and oranges too.

Yes, that is what I said.

I am saying managing/regulating/monitoring/whatevering computer use in
regards to hacking is not parallel to
managing/regulating/monitoring/whatevering firearm use in regards to firearm
misuse. 
A solution for one does not necessarily apply to the other.  

> > btw, i don't care if hackers have access to linux.

Why would you? I don't even care if they have a computer to run Linux as
well.

I suspect some firearms are computers.


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On
Behalf Of Black Ops Security
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:42 PM
To: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician?

> William Lefkovics william at emailonastick.com
> Tue Aug 28 22:23:11 CDT 2007
>
> Apples.
>
> Oranges.

swimming pools, computers, and soccer are all apples and oranges too. 
so what really is your point?  i'm simply saying that we shouldn't blame 
guns for death, just as we shouldn't blame computers for hacking, or 
swimming pools for drowning, or soccer for hooliganism.  as with all gun 
control advocates though, you insist on blaming guns for murder instead 
of holding the individuals accountable for their actions.

> Not many swimming pools can kill you at 7km (was that what the 50BMG
> could do?).
> So far, I haven't had to keep my soccer ball in a child-proof safe.

and my penis is less than 12" long, but i don't have to put a condom on 
my soccer ball to avoid getting my secretary pregnant.

> I don't care if responsible people have guns or not.  But a computer,
> though a potential weapon, is not a firearm.

and a firearm is not a computer.  my god, that's profound.

btw, i don't care if hackers have access to linux.

> Arguments dismissing them as equals are as lame as the ones who say we
> should get rid of guns altogether.

at this point you've hopefully finally figured out that i was never 
trying to say that soccer balls = guns.

> As for the idea of protecting ourselves from our own government...
> should we not then maintain the same level of weapons as our
> government?

now that's a good debate topic!

Regards,
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