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Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding
From: Darren Reed <avalon () caligula anu edu au>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:11:07 +1000 (Australia/ACT)
In some mail from yossarian, sie said:
In some mail from Paul Schmehl, sie said:But that's his privilege. If he chooses to express his thoughts in that way, he has every right to do so. That's precisely what freedom is.But a person in so doing must be prepared to respect the rights and well being of others or in infringing upon them, be prepared to pay duely for it if suffering is endured by others and so we have laws that define libel, defamation, official secrecy acts, etc, that might seem to be at odds with "freedom of speech" but in essence, aim to uphold what it is there for in the first place - to make life better and easier for all.Is "them" including corporate interests if they conflict with personal freedom? Probably, since the companies = the shareholders = people..... Are you including DMCA / Patriot Act / etc.?
What have they got to do with this ? Nothing so far as I can see.
Is this including being prepared for being put in the slammer since someone in uniform dislikes what you put on your T-shirt? Funny how judicial people get to work around the principle of freedom of speech. How many here went to law school? Speech is not necessarily verbal. BTW, whose wellbeing is suffering by Theo's statement? If you are that sensitive, forget the Internet and travel abroad.
My comments were not specific to this particular instance of implied impairment of free speech but rather to point out that with it comes the responsibility of speaking in a fair and wise manner and that if you are careless with your words then expecting the notion of "free" speech to protect you is somewhat naive. Darren _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Jason Coombs (Apr 18)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Paul Schmehl (Apr 18)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Paul Schmehl (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Darren Reed (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Darren Reed (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 20)
- RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Curt Purdy (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Darren Reed (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding riki (Apr 21)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Darren Reed (Apr 21)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding riki (Apr 22)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Paul Schmehl (Apr 18)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Cptnug (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Denis Dimick (Apr 19)
- RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Ed Carp (Apr 19)