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Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding
From: yossarian <yossarian () planet nl>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 02:23:15 +0200
In some mail from Paul Schmehl, sie said:But that's his privilege. If he chooses to express his thoughts in that way, he has every right to do so. That's precisely what freedom is.But a person in so doing must be prepared to respect the rights and well being of others or in infringing upon them, be prepared to pay duely for it if suffering is endured by others and so we have laws that define libel, defamation, official secrecy acts, etc, that might seem to be at odds with "freedom of speech" but in essence, aim to uphold what it is there for in the first place - to make life better and easier for all.
Is "them" including corporate interests if they conflict with personal freedom? Probably, since the companies = the shareholders = people..... Are you including DMCA / Patriot Act / etc.? Is this including being prepared for being put in the slammer since someone in uniform dislikes what you put on your T-shirt? Funny how judicial people get to work around the principle of freedom of speech. How many here went to law school? Speech is not necessarily verbal. BTW, whose wellbeing is suffering by Theo's statement? If you are that sensitive, forget the Internet and travel abroad. This warmongering on every internet platform is making the net a more dangerous place, since most people have no power in real life, but find the idea of hacktivism appealing - it feels like power. Anti-US feelings are fueled by these things - whether on a security, a music, or whatever type of forum, it is americans rambling off topic. Can't we just get this over with, or will we have to wait till george is re-elected? _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Jason Coombs (Apr 18)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Paul Schmehl (Apr 18)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Paul Schmehl (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Darren Reed (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Darren Reed (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 20)
- RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Curt Purdy (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Darren Reed (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding riki (Apr 21)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Darren Reed (Apr 21)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding riki (Apr 22)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Paul Schmehl (Apr 18)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Cptnug (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Denis Dimick (Apr 19)