Re: [Fwd: Question]

[Jean-Denis Gorin <jdgorin () computer org>]

I also remember [1] the split of the original Firewalls list to Firewalls and
FW-Wizards because there were too many messages about firewall solutions
configurations...

BTW, does the original Firewalls list still exist?

[1] Yes, I'm a very long time lurker!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: firewall-wizards-bounces () listserv cybertrust com
> [mailto:firewall-wizards-bounces () listserv cybertrust com] On
> Behalf Of ArkanoiD
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:10 PM
> To: mjr () ranum com; Firewall Wizards Security Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] [Fwd: Question]
>
> Finally something on the list not related to "how do i
> configure my PIX" ;-)
> I wonder what happened? We used to have interesting discussions here
> years ago, and now everything is reduced to PIX setup?
>
> P.S. I hate PIX. (and ASA too). Cannot imagine a single case for it to
> be optimal solution. But even that is not what i'd like to discuss ;-)
>
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 04:14:44PM -0400, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
> > I just thought I'd send this along to the list, because it had
> > me laughing into my coffee. My friend Olaf is not a security
> > practitioner. He's not even an IT guy. He's an artist and a
> > professional photographer.
> >
> > I just love the way that any person with a brain who
> > encounters this internet security stuff can immediately
> > cut to the core of the problem as Olaf does below:
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject:    Question
> > Date:       Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:41:39 -0400
> > From:       Olaf S <lightdesigner@---->
> > Reply-To:   lightdesigner@----
> > To:         Ranum Marcus <mjr () ranum com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So, I'm watching a piece on the news this morning that
> > "hackers" from China, Russia, Korea and maybe others have
> > got into the computers that control the electrical grid.
> > My question is why the fuck are these computers connected
> > to the internet?
> >
> > Olaf S
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marcus J. Ranum             CSO, Tenable Network Security, Inc.
> >                     http://www.tenablesecurity.com

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
Philipp K. Dick
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