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Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry
From: Paul Foster <Paul.Foster () dmtsystems net>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:14:41 +1000
Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
But you want to know who's really the idiot? The idiot is the person who plunks down good money for Mitnick's book, or pays a jacked-up conference attendance fee so some ex-con can stand there and say, "you are SO STUPID I can fool you ANY TIME" That's not just stupid - that's "double stupid" And then there's "triple stupid" which is trying to defend and justify the double stupids. :)
You made many excellent points! I fear that i'm an idiot though as I bought his book! :)
My self-deception is that a refresher is always good, especially as I find us practitioners sometimes fall into patterns of thinking. Using firewall logs as an example, many practitioners fall into the habit of only reviewing what has been dropped/rejected. While this is useful, it's more important to know what is actually getting through! :)
We occasionally need reminding of such things, and as Mitnick is a SME in social engineering whats the problem with him being the refresher?
-PF aka idiot :) _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Greg Skouby (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Paul D. Robertson (Oct 29)
- Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Paul Foster (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Paul Foster (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 29)
- RE: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry MHawkins (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Paul Foster (Oct 29)
- RE: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Paul D. Robertson (Oct 29)
- Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Paul Foster (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Paul Foster (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Paul Foster (Oct 29)
- Re: Re: Ethics, morality and the industry Paul D. Robertson (Oct 29)
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