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Re: How to Save The World
From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () ranum com>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:17:17 -0500
Crispin Cowan drank the Kool-ade and wrote:
AdI live with a Linux desktop and Mozilla browser day to day, and for the vast majority of web sites, it works fine.
If people didn't tolerate IE-only websites, there wouldn't be any. Whenever I encounter one I usually contact their help desk and tell them how much it bummed me that I couldn't buy $500 worth of goods because they won't adhere to basic web standards.
The problem is that the bulk of sites that don't work are the most "corporate" ones: web casts.
You mean garbage like those things that let you automatically flip powerpoints for a remote user to present a talk? Garbage that has become popular because sales reps and marketing weenies are apparently too stupid to tell their meeting attendees, "next slide, please..." as they pause to collect their thoughts? Yeah, we need that garbage in order to do business. Not.
Most of the webconference software out there does not work with anything other than IE/Windows.
Then don't use it. It won't hurt you. Honestly. I have clients who want to hit me with some garbage presentation-flipping software periodically. I tell them, "sorry; that stuff doesn't work on my network." It's never cost me business. Never. Gird up your loins like a man and just say "no, that's silly." I mean, COME ON, how do you think we built civilization before there was powerpoint? [Mental picture of what a clusterf*ck the Roman Legionnaires getting a powerpoint briefing on "how to crush Gaul for dummies"]
IMHO, this is by far the largest hole in the Linux desktop market that holds companies back from switching.
You've been drinking the Kool-ade, Crispin. When they say "we're not switching because Linux doesn't have XYZ" that's the same bullsh*t as the "security is a performance problem" song. It's just the quickest excuse they could reach for to make you shut up and go away with your tail between your legs. They aren't switching to Linux because they're morons who have totally bought into the current software-as-commodity crack-induced hallucination. They actually expect that a platform is going to come pre-loaded with all the garbage they "need" - so they can avoid the real effort of thinking over the problem they are trying to solve. After all, if it's stupid web-meeting presentation garbage they need so badly, they'd pay for it, right? No graduate of Harvard Business School is going to blow the cost-benefit analysis of "operating system: $150.00, net meeting garbage: free" versus "operating system: free, net meeting garbage: $19.95" - if there were a _real_ market there, it'd get filled real fast. But - don't mistake me for a free UNIX fan. Free UNIX is a disaster. Free UNIX (including Linux) is turning into the same kind of poxy garbage-bloated tuna-fish reeking cesspit of shovelware as Windows. In an attempt to bypass the "it doesn't have XYZ" excuse from customers, Linux-heads are busy turning Linux into a more pimped-out bloated curb-feeler fur-covered dashboard bucket of slop than Windows. After all, if it's got more useless features than Windows, customers lose their excuse to not use it, right? Wrong. They'll just come up with another excuse. And Linux will still be a bloated cesspit. I'm not saying it's trivial to put on 300lbs of fat and no muscle. But it's a darned sight easier to put it on that it is to lose it again! Lest you think this rant is not on the topic of security, let me show you why it's relevant: we got onto this topic because of my standard "customers complain security is slow" rant. What I didn't mention in that rant is that when you're dealing with excuse-makers they will simply come up with another excuse if you crush the first one. If we made a high-quality stateful proxy firewall that ran 14GB/sec - customers would then complain that "it's hard to manage" or "it complicates the routing path" or some other nonsense. Behind every excuse you knock down, there will be another one. As Sun Tzu said, "when you are dealing with motherf*ckers who make endless excuses - cut the first one's head off, and the excuses will suddenly stop." mjr. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- RE: How to Save The World (was: Antivirus vendor conspiracy theories) Marcus J. Ranum (Dec 12)
- Re: How to Save The World (was: Antivirus vendor conspiracy theories) Adam Shostack (Dec 12)
- Re: How to Save The World (was: Antivirus vendor conspiracy theories) Paul D. Robertson (Dec 12)
- Re: How to Save The World Crispin Cowan (Dec 12)
- Re: How to Save The World Marcus J. Ranum (Dec 12)
- Re: How to Save The World Crispin Cowan (Dec 12)
- Re: How to Save The World Frank Knobbe (Dec 13)
- Re: How to Save The World Devdas Bhagat (Dec 13)
- Re: How to Save The World Jian Zhen (Dec 13)
- Re: How to Save The World Marcus J. Ranum (Dec 13)
- Re: How to Save The World Jian Zhen (Dec 13)
- Re: How to Save The World Devdas Bhagat (Dec 13)
- Re: How to Save The World Crispin Cowan (Dec 13)
- Re: How to Save The World Devdas Bhagat (Dec 13)
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