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Re: tunnel vs open a hole


From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () ranum com>
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 22:15:50 -0400

George Capehart wrote:
Fair is fair.  You're right.  If the customers complained/sued, maybe it would get someone's attention . . .  ;-)

Y'know, when someone buys cigarettes and smokes them and enjoys
them for 20 years and doesn't quit even when their medical effects are
well-documented - then turns around and sues the tobacco manufacturers,
 I think they're pretty lame. I think they should accept that a certain amount
of their pain is of their own doing.

When someone beats their head against a wall, and it hurts and their
friends tell them to stop, they shouldn't sue the wall, or their friends. They
should accept that a certain amount of their pain is of their own doing.

When someone keeps using Microsoft IIS as a mission-critical component
in spite of the literally hundreds of security problems it's had in the last few
years - well. I think they should accept that a certain amount of their pain is
of their own doing.

There's one easy way to complain to a vendor that sells crap: stop buying
the crap. They'll get the point pretty quickly. In fact, with the way most of
these software companies burn money they'll evaporate overnight.

Continuing to put your good money down on crap that you know is crap
eventually loses you your moral position from which to complain if what
you get is crap.

mjr. 
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Marcus J. Ranum                         http://www.ranum.com
Computer and Communications Security    mjr () ranum com

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