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Re: tunnel vs open a hole
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy () center osis gov>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:19:06 -0400
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 11:16:45AM -0400, George Capehart wrote: ...
To me this all ends up as a governance and accountability issue. There certainly is enough blame to go around. This is not an intractable problem. IMHO, the reason it is not being managed is that no one is being held accountable for not "doing it right." Why is that? It is not important. *That* makes it a governance issue. How does one get the attention of a Board of Directors? Good question. Someone/something got Bill Gates' attention . . .
... Well, yes. Aren't all things, in the end? We are all of us accountable for governing our own actions. This is such a horrifying notion to many that they duck and run for cover. Corporate identities, having no souls, must be governed and held accountable by a BoD. Which may also have no souls. How does one get the attention of a BoD? Two ways. The smell of money, and the smell of litigation. The carrot and the stick. In the BoD of too many of today's companies, as Marcus has alluded to, the Ds don't care about the company, the product, or the worker. They care about the revered "bottom line". And this doesn't even refer to the actual worth of the company, its products, or its revenues - nobody looks at that, nowadays. When they report the "worth" of a company, it's the price of a share of stock times the number of shares. A truly fake number! But it directly impacts the "bottom line" about which the directors are concerned - how much THEIR shares are worth, and those of the share holders who are only concerned about how much THEIR shares are worth. Today's stock market is little more than a Ponzi game where the trick is to walk out of the game with as much loot as you can before someone else does it to you. My daughter does not understand why I grimace when her "middle school" class enters the Washington Post Stock Market game, compelling her class to read and try and bet on the gambling pages - not the horse sheets, but the stock sheets. Bill Gates' attention is no different, OBTW. Sorry to be so cynical, but ... -- Joe Yao jsdy () center osis gov - Joseph S. D. Yao OSIS Center Systems Support EMT-B ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is not an official statement of OSIS Center policies. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: tunnel vs open a hole, (continued)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 09)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 09)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole R. DuFresne (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Bill Royds (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Dave Piscitello (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Adam Shostack (Apr 09)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Mike Frantzen (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole R. DuFresne (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Duncan Sharp (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 14)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Duncan Sharp (Apr 14)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Duncan Sharp (Apr 16)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Magosányi Árpád (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Gary Flynn (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Paul Robertson (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Paul Robertson (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 14)