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Re: HEOA Question
From: Kevin Wilcox <wilcoxkm () APPSTATE EDU>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:09:18 -0500
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Matthew Gracie <graciem () canisius edu> wrote:
On 01/31/2011 09:44 AM, William Derwostyp wrote:
I am going to assume that there are other universities that use the NAT process to control traffic on their perimeter and use non-routable addresses on the internal network. Is there any tool or application I can use that will help to tie the notices back to the person without having to go back to public addressing?
If you're using Cisco gear on the edge of the wireless network to handle the NATing, it might be helpful to turn on Netflow and send the flow data to a collector. Even an open-source tool like Flowviewer would give you better records of which client is passing what kind of traffic; depending on the number of IPs we're talking about, that might be sufficient to handle your HEOA demands.
I like netflow data, it gives you a great view into where folks are going, and as Matt said, it can be really useful for tracking down who did what (assuming you export pre-NAT), but conflicts can still arise. Logging the translations is crucial. It's my understanding that Cisco can log NAT translations. If you're using pf for NAT you can log from the pfsync device (used for sharing state between firewalls - specifically for sharing state between two bridging firewalls) and parse the state creation/deletion times. Both will allow for a timestamp, pre-NAT IP:port, the IP:port on the external router interface and the IP:port of the destination. I assume Juniper and the others can log the translations as well, particularly since so many vendors build their devices on NetBSD and FreeBSD. kmw -- Kevin Wilcox GPEN, GCIH Network Infrastructure and Control Systems Appalachian State University Email: wilcoxkm () appstate edu Office: 828.262.6259
Current thread:
- HEOA Question William Derwostyp (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Matthew Gracie (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Eme Ejike (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Kevin Wilcox (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question SCHALIP, MICHAEL (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Steve Worona (Feb 01)
- Re: HEOA Question Bulanda, Dave G (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Gioia, Matthew P. (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Bulanda, Dave G (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Harry E Flowers (flowers) (Feb 02)
- Re: HEOA Question Dave Inman (Feb 03)
- Re: HEOA Question Gioia, Matthew P. (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Matthew Gracie (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Cal Frye (Jan 31)
- Re: HEOA Question Jacobson, Dick (Jan 31)