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Re: PCI compliance question


From: "Marcum, Chad A" <cmarcum () IU EDU>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 19:13:47 +0000

Hi Bob,

I think a lot of good points have been made.  If your "one card" is sponsored by one of the big five credit card 
companies, then your vending machines are in-scope.  If your "one card" is not sponsored by one of the big five brands, 
then I would say your vending machines are not in-scope.  

If someone accidently swipes a credit card in a vending machine, which isn't designed to take credit card numbers, then 
I would say you could bring that machine and that part of your network into scope.  (Notice the word "could", as I am 
not your QSA.)

Our QSA has asked us to put disclaimers on some devices stating that we are not responsible if you should decide to 
swipe your credit card somewhere it doesn't belong and I don't think that's a bad idea.  

Chad 

Chad A. Marcum
Lead Security Engineer
University Information Security Office
Information and Infrastructure Assurance
Office of the VP for Information Technology and CIO
Indiana University
https://informationsecurity.iu.edu


 

-----Original Message-----
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Bob
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:47 PM
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Subject: [SECURITY] PCI compliance question

We are struggling with a PCI compliance issue and have been asked to query this list.  We have vending machines (drink, 
snack, laundry, etc.) on our network that are being setup for use with our university "one card" system.  The readers 
on these machines will transmit and process our cards just fine.  However, when someone uses a CC it is transmitted to 
the card system/server, but the system ignores it and does not process the transaction.
 
The big question:  are the vending machines considered in-scope for PCI?  If so, that means a lot of other things will 
be too.
 
Thanks.
 
Bob Smith
AVP IITS & Information Security Officer
Longwood University
 


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