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Re: Peer to Peer Blocking


From: Joel Rosenblatt <joel () COLUMBIA EDU>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:19:44 -0500

We don't do any blocking of P2P at Columbia.  We also do a lot of user education about the evils of copyright 
infringement and vigorously pursue any take down
requests.  We do bandwidth shaping for both upload and download strictly based on volume of traffic (we are protocol 
agnostic).  A department can apply for an
exemption if the are running a server.  A good side effect of this is that if a machine is being used for a DDOS 
attack, it is usually limited by default.

Our docs if your interested: <http://www.columbia.edu/acis/news/network-quota-09-2004.html>

Joel Rosenblatt

Joel Rosenblatt, Senior Security Officer & Windows Specialist, AcIS
Columbia University, 612 W 115th Street, NY, NY 10025 / 212 854 3033
http://www.columbia.edu/~joel


--On Monday, March 07, 2005 12:14 PM -0500 Tracy Mitrano <tbm3 () CORNELL EDU> wrote:

It might bear reminding that the file share programs themselves are
not illegal -- the Supreme Court will hear the Grokster v. MPAA on
precisely this point later this month.  The central question, as you
might imagine, is whether these programs "contribute" to copyright
infringement.  There are many sources of information on this case,
here is just one:
http://news.corporate.findlaw.com/legalnews/lit/mpaa/

At Cornell we use a combination of education on copyright, including
a policy tutorial program that incoming students must complete before
they gain any further access to our network, and strict compliance,
including the procedure that first time violators of "notice and take
down" from copyright holders go Judicial Administration for
discipline, to address the problem of copyright infringement
directly.  Indirectly, network billing, where bandwidth is charged by
the byte, has helped control outbound traffic tremendously.  We have
packet-shaping technology, but our bandwidth is now sufficiently
under control by the users themselves so that network engineers no
longer need to engage it.  Unscientifically, I also think that it has
helped keep the number of copyright notices down significantly.

A final thought on whole-sale blocking of file share technologies, at
least until or at such time as the law changes: a commitment to
academic freedom and a policy traditional of non-content monitoring
here at Cornell here pretty much rules out this option.

Tracy

Our college has received Copyright warnings from the Recording
Industry concerning what they believe to be improper music downloads
using 'peer to peer' networks, such as BearShare, BitTorent,
LineWire, Gnutella, KaZaA, etc.

Has anyone implemented a  'peer to peer' Blocking service to address
this issue?  Pros and Cons?  Or are there other solutions?

Ability is what you're capable of doing.
    Motivation determines what you do.
        Attitude determines how well you do it.
-Lee Holz

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Columbia University, 612 W 115th Street, NY, NY 10025 / 212 854 3033
http://www.columbia.edu/~joel

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