RE: Value of certifications

["Adnan Rafik" <adnan () techiesonly com>]

I'd like to add few line to this discussion too :)

Hmm in the IT industry for almost 8 years and have been through any jobs in
wide variety of work in networking. CERTS are need and it gives you a plus
point. As you are fresh graduate then don't go for it atleast for next 6
months. READ and READ , do your practical work, try to understand the
technology then you can go on  track for CERT but for sure if you know
nothing and if you got certification then next day you will be out of your
job.



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-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On
Behalf Of Yousef Syed
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:07 AM
To: Craig Wright
Cc: Simmons, James; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Value of certifications

On 27/04/07, Craig Wright <Craig.Wright () bdo com au> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a nerd and have never been out of university(1). I finish one course
and than start another. Basically distance ed and work at the same time. I
am also on the Faculty Board of one Uni. So having 19 years in 5 uni's I
have some knowledge of them. So I have to ask where the idea that
Universities are not economically driven came from? In my experiance there
is a lot of economic focus on underpreforming courses these days.
>

I went to University in England, where studying to BSc level used to
be free (I even used to get a grant) - I understand that various
charges have ensued with the result that most students leave
University bankrupt.
I'm not going to get into a discussion regarding the the death of the
Welfare state... :)

My point was more to the idea that Universities are geared toward
learning, more than say various commercial organisations will be, and
thus (atleast one would hope) they would be less likely to become
money making resource. If the government got involved (especially our
current league-table obsessed bunch) then they'd probably do
everything in their power to keep pass rates high; thus devaluing any
cert...
I'm sure some economically viable equilibrium exists somewhere, but I
don't know what it is.

ys

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Yousef Syed
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you remain ignorant" - Japanese Proverb