Re[2]: MS in information security

["Vladimir B. Kropotov" <slyman2000 () Mail ru>]

Hi Craig.


CW> Although the maths is useful to have and I will never tell
CW> anyone not to study, it is in this case not a part of the answer.
CW> Security is not just about crypto.

Unfortunately in year 2000 I was amazing, that crypto is the Only way
to real security, but now I agree with this opinion.
Only cryptography suppose absolutelly open information about all, but
encryption keys. You can get all - hardware. storage devices, traffic,
files, etc. But you will take NOTHING.
Another security measures is like an additional wall, you can jump
over the wall, you can brake it, and get control on protected system.
Security without cryptography is a kind of superficial glance to
security, only Cryptography is real base for Real security.

Regards
Vladimir

P.S. Sorry if I'm late, i've been out of my home city :-)


CW> Cryptographic tools are but one of many tools in an arsenal.
CW> Further they do nothing for the biggest issue, people.

CW> I am happy to chat about complexity theory and Statistical
CW> methods - but this does not make them more than they are - a tool.
CW> One of many in fact.



CW> Regards
CW> Craig

CW> -----Original Message-----
CW> From: Vladimir B. Kropotov [mailto:slyman2000 () Mail ru]

CW> Sent: 2 February 2006 5:49
CW> To: security-basics () securityfocus com
CW> Subject: Re: MS in information security

CW> Hi all.


byc>> I noticed that the question of 'CISSP or degree' got a lot of

byc>> feedbacks and comments.  I am also considering more education in

byc>> order to enter security field.  I already have BS degree from good

byc>> school and working for a IT company working with various

byc>> applications.  However, I have always wanted to be a little bit

byc>> more technical and be exposed to more research-like environment.
byc>> Not sure if I want Ph.D., but definitely looking at one of those MS

byc>> in information security.  Georgia Tech and several other reputable

byc>> universities offer such program.

CW> In russia we have more than 10 years experience in
CW> Information Security education. The only one Real security - good
CW> and strong cryptography.
CW> Any other things - it's just additional measures.
CW> Long time ago, when i was freshman in the university - i had
CW> to disagree with our Gurus but now 9 years left and I absolutelly
CW> agree with them. So if you wanna be in 'real' security - you must
CW> have good math base - it's not possible to get it in two yaers. I
CW> have 4.5 years of math in university and it isn't enough. I'm
CW> learning math 4 years after graduation, but it isn't enough. I
CW> think 10-12 years of continuous math learning is enough ;-).

CW> If you want became security folk - University is a good start :-)

CW> But the only university degree - is NOT A SILVER BULLET!!!

CW> Good luck
CW> Vladimir B. Kropotov
CW> Bauman university
CW> Moscow
byc>> After working almost 2 years in industry, I know that experience is

byc>> really important and that I can acquire the knowledge myself

byc>> through many sources although I don't go back to school to do it.

byc>> On the other hand, the idea of getting higher or specialized

byc>> education and degree is really appealing.  Also, since my current

byc>> work does not have anything to do with security, getting more

byc>> education might offer me a better chance of getting in to security

byc>> field than studying on my own, getting some certs and try to

byc>> convince companies to believe that I know about security.

byc>> Any opinions welcome

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