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RE: Sun cans Trusted Solaris, was Why Easy To Use Software Is Putting You At Risk


From: "Steven Jones" <Steven.Jones () vuw ac nz>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:51:44 +1300

The answer should be obvious,

Most people don't want security at any cost, otherwise most people would
not be running a MS OS.

The answer is a balance of cost, usability and security. The service has
to be affordable when looked at in TCO terms. Ie yes, risk of being
hacked has to be considered as part of business risk/impact on the life
cycle, but it is usully not the be all and end all.

Also add in getting applications to run well on an anally retentative
system can be hard work, the performance if lots of logging is done can
kill i/o....so often the hardware costs more....ie bigger disks or
better still a separate i/o channel for logging and 2 disks
minimum.......

So while there will be organisations that want these high levels of
security these are so few that the economics of specialist OSes is not
there....

Regards

Steven



-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Wright [mailto:cwright () bdosyd com au] 
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2006 12:56 p.m.
To: dave kleiman; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Sun cans Trusted Solaris, was Why Easy To Use Software Is
Putting You At Risk




Hello,
Many people on the list have the idea that people want secure software
at any cost.


Sun have produced a very good product - Trusted solaris for a long time.
I would like people to answer me (if they can) why they have decided to
stop producing it. To explain why, if everyone wants secure by design
software they are not willing to pay the extra cost to obtain it and
thus why Sun is going to no longer support this OS.

Trusted Solaris has an EAL 4+ rating, supports MAC and RBAC and has a
verified architecture.

Instead Sun will add ECC (elliptice curve crypto) to the existing
versions of Solaris.

Flames welcome, please explain why more people are not implementing a
provably more secure system when it is available.

Regards
Craig S Wright

See:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/02/13/75309_HNendtrustedsolaris_1.ht
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