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RE: Network scanning


From: White-Tiger <white-tiger () rocketmail com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:39:19 -0700 (PDT)

If you are in a switched network... some switches support
snmp traps for link up/down.

if port 12 is unused... and you get a trap that is just
went UP... the bingo... someone is on.  also... you get set
it up so that if yoiu have a workstation with a link that
goes down/up/down/ or some pattern... your helpdesk can see
it... can call to make sure everything is ok... that way
you might catch standard user problems before they have to
call you.  what great customer service :)

looks good for you.

wt
--- Simon <simon () snosoft com> wrote:
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One thing that you could do is use a tool that would send
an ICMP
packet to all possible addresses in your particular
network.  That
won't detect all connecting hosts, in particular if
someone jacks in
to sniff only, but that assumes that your network is hub
based.  If
your network is switch based then people will have a hard
time
logging in and sniffing without being detected as they'd
normally
have to ARP poison the switch or do something else that
would be
detectable.


So... the simple 99% answer is, ping all possible IP
addresses once,
if you get a response from an address thats not supposed
to be
there... well... then you'll know.  

Also, if you use DHCP then you could watch the DHCP log
for new
systems... thats not super difficult either. 



- -----Original Message-----
From: netsec novice [mailto:netsec9 () hotmail com]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:51 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Network scanning


Are there tools out there that would allow system
administrators to
be 
notified when a new workstation attaches to a network? 
I'm thinking
both 
wireless and ethernet in this case.  SNMP maybe?  I am in
a credit
union 
environment and my concern is that someone would be able
to steal an 
existing jack or a jack that is not physically protected
but live and
be 
able to capture traffic or do reconaissance.  We don't
have Wireless
access 
at this point but may look to it in the future.  My only
thought in
that 
case would be to encrypt all traffic since wireless
security is a bit
scary 
at this point.  Any ideas?


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