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Re: SDMI - The way I would make the water mark.


From: Ralph Moonen <ralph () TINK ORG>
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:45:20 +0200

At 09:33 13-10-00 -0600, Richard Rager wrote:
  Ok I have an idea how the SDMI lives thought the wav - mp3 - wav and DA
-> AD -> DA.


   Music is make up of notes.  If the note was moved 200MS either way with
a known pattern the the music can be water mark and be converted to MP3
back to WAV and still see it.  The human ear would not hear it.

What? You must be kidding! 200ms is a HUGE FUCKING amount of time, when
making music. 100 ms is even way too much. When syncing my HD recording
to my synth and sampler, the latency MUST be < 20ms or else it sounds ilke
shit.
Just get a MIDI sequencer from the Internet somewhere and try to shuffle
the drums or melody
around by blocks of 50 ms. I assure you you will be surprised.

Apart from that, it is imposible to select single notes from a recording,
be it analogue or
digital. The first person to be able to deconstruct digital music like that
would earn a
nobel prize, for that would mean that a critical function of the human
brain had been
emulated by computers, and that would be a breakthrough for real AI.

--Ralph


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