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Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds


From: Daniel Marks via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 16:23:05 -0500

Yea I’d like to see mandated IPv6 if ISPs want government money, around here an IPv4 only ISP won a government contract 
a while back for res fiber deployment and the last I heard from an acquaintance I spoke to over there they are planning 
to stuff the entire city behind a /24 with no upcoming plans to enable v6 (but of course you can get your own IP if you 
pay more).

I’m not a conspiracy theorist but sometimes it feels like some smaller ISPs are intentionally not deploying v6 so they 
can get customers to upgrade to more expensive plans for the luxury of *checks notes* not getting rate limited. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2023, at 15:41, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:55 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com> wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit

Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux...

Hi Dave,

You start off with a decent thesis - beyond 100mbps there really isn't
any difference in capability, not for residential use. Just a
difference in how quickly some tasks complete. It's not like the
difference between 768kbps and 10 mbps where one does streaming video
and conferencing while the other does not.

But then you get lost in latency. Latency is important but it's only
one in a laundry list of things that make the difference between
quality and trash in Internet services.

* Packet loss.

* Service outages. I have a buddy whose phone line has been out for
days four times this year. His ILEC neither wants to maintain the
copper lines nor install fiber that deep in the woods, so they keep
doing mediocre repairs to the infrastructure that don't hold up.

* Incomplete connectivity (e.g. Cogent and IPv6).

Personally, I'd love to see rulemaking to the effect that only folks
with -open- peering policies are eligible for government funds and
contracts. But that's my pet peeve, like latency is yours. And if I
pitch that, it'll rightly be seen as a pet issue.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



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