Re: [nznog] Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

[Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com>]

Is that really an appropriate response for NANOG?

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 1:41 PM Geoffrey Jackson <
geoffrey.jackson () protonmail com> wrote:

> Pussy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com>
> Sent: 2 December 2023 7:11 AM
> To: Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com>
> Cc: Tom Mitchell <tmitchell () netelastic com>; NANOG <nanog () nanog org>;
> NZNOG <NZNOG () list waikato ac nz>; ausnog () lists ausnog net
> Subject: [nznog] Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for
> faster broadband speeds
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 12:46 PM Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com>
> wrote:
> > If you want money from the government to subsidize your network, you'll
> follow their rules...
>
> It is the misguided focus on too many too simple things from the regulator
> and Congress, without even understanding what a packet is, and enormous
> subsidies for things that don't matter, and great mis-understanding of the
> things that do, that bothers me the most.
>
> Anyway, for 14 years, I have been trying to get bufferbloat fixed,
> universally, and great progress is being made. I felt that with one
> political push like this, it might begin to turn the tide. We are accepting
> signatures on the FCC filing until 2PM EST today.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit
>
> > On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 12:39 PM Tom Mitchell <tmitchell () netelastic com>
> wrote:
> > > Not sure we need the FCC telling us how to build products or run
> networks.  Seat belts are life-or-death, but bufferbloat is rarely fatal
> ;-)  Let it be a point of differentiation.
> > > -- Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:56 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > Over here:
> > > >
> > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-Qmh
> > > > lYRLMBY4vH4/edit
> > > >
> > > > Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the
> > > > FCC's NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing
> > > > the broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.
> > > >
> > > > "Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for
> > > > cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without
> > > > calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering
> > > > wheels, (or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these
> > > > initiatives will fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present
> > > > and future users of the internet."
> > > >
> > > > Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in
> flux...
> > > > --
> > > > :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab
> > > > Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
>
>
>
> --
> :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab Dave
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