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Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 19:27:43 -0600 (CST)
It would be better to keep the government out of it altogether, but that has little chance of happening. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Beecher" <beecher () beecher cc> To: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht () gmail com> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>, "NZNOG" <NZNOG () list waikato ac nz>, "<ausnog () lists ausnog net>" <ausnog () lists ausnog net> Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 6:34:49 PM Subject: Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Trying to put technical requirements like this into law and public policy is an extremely terrible idea. This letter should never be sent. The regulatory agencies today don't have the manpower or expertise to adequately enforce the more generic broadband deployment rules. What fantasy world exists where they have the manpower or expertise to monitor for and enforce something like this? Hell, there are constant , legitimate technical discussions between experts on HOW to *properly* monitor things just like this. We want to have someone at the FCC deciding what that should look like? 4.4 What the hell? The regulatory agencies should be allocating spectrum, and making sure it's not used improperly with the rules of allocation. Making it work 'better' is OUR job in the technical community. Not an FCC rulemaker. 4.8 There are zero scenarios there should ever be regulatory rules about device software. In our space (non-ISP) , TONS of people run older versions of vendor code. Why? The shit DOESN'T WORK RIGHT YET and it causes other problems. You suggest that regulatory bodies be involved in dictating anything about this? The bufferbloat work belongs in the technical area, full stop. Nowhere near regulatory / legal. On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 7:57 PM Dave Taht < dave.taht () gmail com > wrote: Over here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit. "Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels, (or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users of the internet." Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux... -- :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds, (continued)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Daniel Marks via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Shane Ronan (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Brandon Martin (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds William Herrin (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds sronan (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds William Herrin (Dec 02)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Daniel Marks via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Dave Taht (Dec 02)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds sronan (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Mike Hammett (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Stephen Satchell (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Dave Taht (Dec 02)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds William Herrin (Dec 02)