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Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds


From: Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2023 08:21:33 -0500

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 6:21 PM Tom Samplonius <tom () samplonius org> wrote:


https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit

Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's
NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the
broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.


  The era of “buffer bloat” has passed.  Buffer bloat is just about jitter, and jitter mitigation is just better now.

I am really not sure what world you live in. Certainly the problem has
got much better since 2010, but nearly
every network I ever explore still has vast amounts of it. The global
south, every coffee shop, and every hotel
I have been in, all have major issues here.  I make a habit of testing
the conference wifi and posting results
at every talk. The apartment complex I am staying in this week has a completely
saturated backhaul and oversubscribed wifi, with tremendous amounts of
delay and packet loss, where more
constructive packet loss would help. Google docs is nearly unusable
most of the day... and so it goes.

I do hope the solutions for bloat continue to roll out globally and we
cross this chasm in the next few years.

  I don’t think jitter needs to be part of public policy.

Congress has mandated a report from the FCC every year about the state
of the internet, which is what
this attempt at a constructive policy change of focus was about.


Tom



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