nanog mailing list archives
Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2023 08:21:33 -0500
On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 6:21 PM Tom Samplonius <tom () samplonius org> wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.The era of “buffer bloat” has passed. Buffer bloat is just about jitter, and jitter mitigation is just better now.
I am really not sure what world you live in. Certainly the problem has got much better since 2010, but nearly every network I ever explore still has vast amounts of it. The global south, every coffee shop, and every hotel I have been in, all have major issues here. I make a habit of testing the conference wifi and posting results at every talk. The apartment complex I am staying in this week has a completely saturated backhaul and oversubscribed wifi, with tremendous amounts of delay and packet loss, where more constructive packet loss would help. Google docs is nearly unusable most of the day... and so it goes. I do hope the solutions for bloat continue to roll out globally and we cross this chasm in the next few years.
I don’t think jitter needs to be part of public policy.
Congress has mandated a report from the FCC every year about the state of the internet, which is what this attempt at a constructive policy change of focus was about.
Tom
-- :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
Current thread:
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds, (continued)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Dave Taht (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds michael brooks - ESC (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds William Herrin (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Daniel Marks via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Shane Ronan (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Brandon Martin (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds William Herrin (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds sronan (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds William Herrin (Dec 02)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Daniel Marks via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Dave Taht (Dec 02)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds sronan (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Mike Hammett (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Stephen Satchell (Dec 01)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds Dave Taht (Dec 02)
- Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds William Herrin (Dec 02)